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Thanks for screwing Star Trek, CBS...
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Can't really argue with that proposition.
I SMELL A PETITION!
Doctor Who does it every few years or so: New lead, new companions. About the only thing that is constant is the time-travel and the Tardis.
The Who fans are just as whiny as Trekkies, however. Look at your average Who message board, and you'll see people saying 'Moffat SUCKS! This is NOT my Doctor!'
They could remake TNG after the Abrams movies are done. Is it Kirk and Spock people want? Or is it just 'cool' Trek, with big explosions and special effects, with young attractive actors, that the general public wants? It might be risky remaking TNG, but it could work.
They could remake TNG after the Abrams movies are done. Is it Kirk and Spock people want? Or is it just 'cool' Trek, with big explosions and special effects, with young attractive actors, that the general public wants? It might be risky remaking TNG, but it could work.
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They have a pretty neat way of tying it all in, too, so that even with a different face, he still feels like The Doctor.
Except Picard is kind of sexless.
I think it is Kirk and Spock people want. People being the general public.
^The general public won't watch a Trek series in the current television environment. They'll go to a movie or buy it, but they won't stick with a sci-fi television series, at least not in the numbers TNG had.
If this is true, it makes me very upset. The success of Into Darkness would be the perfect time to launch a new weekly TV series. Interest in Star Trek is higher than it's been in 15 years. TNG, TOS and DS9 routinely show up on my "Popular on Netflix" scroll. For the first time all the TV series are under one roof at Netflix so it'd be easy for a casual fan to binge and become hardcore.
Interestingly enough, TNG, DS9, VOY and even ENT have aged well. Now with the massive success of this film, Star Trek has a real chance to be popular again. If you're going to seize the opportunity, now's the time.
Interestingly enough, TNG, DS9, VOY and even ENT have aged well. Now with the massive success of this film, Star Trek has a real chance to be popular again. If you're going to seize the opportunity, now's the time.
Not (according to that article) if TOS merchandise is hanging around confusing people.
I think the article is BS, but that being said, there is no reason that both can't exist.
It's like saying that, when the Star Wars prequels came out, all OT toys and merchandise must cease - even though most toy buyers still preferred Millennium Falcon and X-Wing replica toys to...uh...I actually can't name a single ship from the prequels.
(Which is telling, because, while I *do* like the new Trek movies, I'm not thrilled by the ships - I like the new Enterprise and the Kelvin is OK, but the rest of the ships, meh. The designs are too...busy...for me, and not very...iconic - but forgettable. And didn't Ryan Church design both nuTrek's and the prequel's ships...? Maybe Ryan Church is the one who should go...)
Interesting too, the contrast...new Trek is all about the Reboot...and new Star Wars is all about ignoring the prequels and bringing back the classic actors and storylines! Abrams found old Trek boring, so he reboots it...Abrams likes old Star Wars, so he brings it back (I even heard on NPR today that they are gonna be returning to practical sets and creatures, and getting away fro so much CGI - which is good if you ask me.
Of course, the SW prequels were pretty atrocious - where as nuTrek, for all it's flaws, is still better that Voyager and the first 3 season of Enterprise (I liked the 4th) - which were pretty boring and stale. And Abrams *has* breathed new life and vitality and excitement back into Trek, even if he's dumbed it down a bit. But the fact that fans still want more of the *old* Star Wars is proof that there's still room to listen to the fans, and the honor the past as well as look to the future.
I think that we can have nuTrek and Classic Trek merchandise, both - I don't think that most people are two dumb to tell the difference, and I don't really think that JJ actually asked for classic Trek merchandise to be discontinued. (Hell - he's *used* a classic actor in the new franchise!)
If there was an issue - it might have been with CBS not wanting to lose control of televised Trek. Maybe...
It's like saying that, when the Star Wars prequels came out, all OT toys and merchandise must cease - even though most toy buyers still preferred Millennium Falcon and X-Wing replica toys to...uh...I actually can't name a single ship from the prequels.
(Which is telling, because, while I *do* like the new Trek movies, I'm not thrilled by the ships - I like the new Enterprise and the Kelvin is OK, but the rest of the ships, meh. The designs are too...busy...for me, and not very...iconic - but forgettable. And didn't Ryan Church design both nuTrek's and the prequel's ships...? Maybe Ryan Church is the one who should go...)
Interesting too, the contrast...new Trek is all about the Reboot...and new Star Wars is all about ignoring the prequels and bringing back the classic actors and storylines! Abrams found old Trek boring, so he reboots it...Abrams likes old Star Wars, so he brings it back (I even heard on NPR today that they are gonna be returning to practical sets and creatures, and getting away fro so much CGI - which is good if you ask me.
Of course, the SW prequels were pretty atrocious - where as nuTrek, for all it's flaws, is still better that Voyager and the first 3 season of Enterprise (I liked the 4th) - which were pretty boring and stale. And Abrams *has* breathed new life and vitality and excitement back into Trek, even if he's dumbed it down a bit. But the fact that fans still want more of the *old* Star Wars is proof that there's still room to listen to the fans, and the honor the past as well as look to the future.
I think that we can have nuTrek and Classic Trek merchandise, both - I don't think that most people are two dumb to tell the difference, and I don't really think that JJ actually asked for classic Trek merchandise to be discontinued. (Hell - he's *used* a classic actor in the new franchise!)
If there was an issue - it might have been with CBS not wanting to lose control of televised Trek. Maybe...
Heathen.
But yeah, you make a good point. I'm a Star Wars fanatic and to be frank the first and easiest Prequel ship to come to mind is Queen Amidala's Royal Starship from Episode I, followed a distant second and third by the Jedi Starfighters and Darth Maul's Sith Infiltrator. Most OT ships are iconic and almost universally recognized. Most PT ships just kind of blend into the background noise and don't stand out.
And Slave 1 overlapped.
I loved the silver Naboo ship (and I have one of course). And the speeders from AOTC were pretty cool too.
The Queen's starship is gorgeous. Best spacecraft of the entire PT era, though I also really like the gleaming chrome and yellow Naboo Starfighters of her planet's defensive forces. The Naboo aesthetic for spaceship design is so elegant and pleasing to the senses.
And see they did innovate. Compare Naboo style to the Millenium Falcon or the ATTACK ATTACK style of the X wings.
Naboo speaks of culture, not war.
Naboo speaks of culture, not war.
Yeah, Naboo was supposed to be a planet of relative peace, artistic endeavors and the pursuit of high culture with an elected monarch chosen by the people to preserve a fully democratic system and way of life.
Their ships and architecture reflect those centuries-old philosophies and made Naboo arguably the neatest planet introduced in the Prequel Trilogy.
Their ships and architecture reflect those centuries-old philosophies and made Naboo arguably the neatest planet introduced in the Prequel Trilogy.
NO WAY!!
I will forever, FOREVER be in love with Coruscant. My favorite planet in any universe.
I will forever, FOREVER be in love with Coruscant. My favorite planet in any universe.
A close second. But technically Coruscant was introduced at the very end of the Special Edition of Jedi back in 1997 and not in a Prequel so I didn't count it.
Gah.
Okay, give me Kamino instead. I'm not crazy about Naboo, too frou frou.
Okay, give me Kamino instead. I'm not crazy about Naboo, too frou frou.
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