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News TFF: the big ol' head identified

My take has always been that the 'god' creature was imprisoned in a pocket of the Great Barrier, and that the Barrier had been constructed so that it might get out between galaxies, but can't get back in to this one. The Barrier wraps around not the entire Galaxy, but the parts of it, and the pocket is between galactic arms somehow.

Sure, why the hell not. It beats what was shown in the movie :)
 
STV's "God" was also Admiral Hansen in TBOBW and as a dirty ol' man in an episode of "The Nanny"... Now that dude's got range. :D
 
Logically, there’s no way the Enterprise-A (or the Klingon BoP following them, for that matter) could have reached the center of the galaxy in the time allotted, under its own power. Therefore they only thought they were at the center of the galaxy but in fact were only in an unexplored area of the Alpha Quadrant.

My take has always been that the 'god' creature was imprisoned in a pocket of the Great Barrier, and that the Barrier had been constructed so that it might get out between galaxies, but can't get back in to this one. The Barrier wraps around not the entire Galaxy, but the parts of it, and the pocket is between galactic arms somehow.

Well, Kirk never believed they were going to the center of the galaxy. To the contrary, he though this would be impossible, for a variety of reasons starting out with the Great Barrier being in the way.

Sure they reach Sha Ka Ree. But Kirk at no points believes he would have reached the center of the galaxy. So either Sybok got the address wrong - or then his God indeed was a Cytherian, and the ships reached His dwelling at the center of the galaxy by the very same means the E-D did, by the Cytherians giving the ships a boost. With a shipful of possessed, dazed, slavish followers, who would notice a Barclay or three messing up with the engines and turning on the turbo boost?

Timo Saloniemi
 
So maybe only similar in the most superficial of ways?
But wouldn't that be an amazing coincidence, then? 2 BBODs (Bodyless Bearded Old Dudes) in 1 section of space would be remarkable, unless we say that the center of the galaxy is inhabited by "BBODs" of many varieties, just like the rest of the galaxy has "humanoids" of many varieties. Perhaps they're cousins, like Vulcans & Romulans. :techman:
 
My take has always been that the 'god' creature was imprisoned in a pocket of the Great Barrier, and that the Barrier had been constructed so that it might get out between galaxies, but can't get back in to this one. The Barrier wraps around not the entire Galaxy, but the parts of it, and the pocket is between galactic arms somehow.
 
A bit oversimplified than I was thinking, but that's the general idea. That even allows for the claim that Sha-Ka-Ree is at the center of the galaxy, if only by degrees. No one ever claimed it was in the core, at least not in TFF.
 
A bit oversimplified than I was thinking, but that's the general idea. That even allows for the claim that Sha-Ka-Ree is at the center of the galaxy, if only by degrees. No one ever claimed it was in the core, at least not in TFF.

And they already went to the centre of the galaxy in "The Magicks of Megas-Tu" (TAS). Lucien the Devil was there, not "God".
 
But wouldn't that be an amazing coincidence, then? 2 BBODs (Bodyless Bearded Old Dudes) in 1 section of space would be remarkable, unless we say that the center of the galaxy is inhabited by "BBODs" of many varieties, just like the rest of the galaxy has "humanoids" of many varieties.

Don't most of the species in Trek communicate via disembodied heads (with optional shoulders)?

It's just that some of the more primitive ones need a physical viewscreen to put that head on.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Don't most of the species in Trek communicate via disembodied heads (with optional shoulders)?

It's just that some of the more primitive ones need a physical viewscreen to put that head on.

Timo Saloniemi
I've seen a lot of shoulders on Trek viewscreens. Plus necks.
 
Yes, the writers' room staff intended that the two beings were connected. They just decided not to make it explicit in dialogue. (This from Richard Arnold during his Australian convention slide presentation of that year's episodes.)
Was there anything to corroborate Arnold's assertion that the 2 were in-fact connected, or was that thoroughly debunked?
 
Was there anything to corroborate Arnold's assertion that the 2 were in-fact connected, or was that thoroughly debunked?

Richard was relating an anecdote he claimed was told to him by the creative team. He had similar stories for two or three slides for each episode, over many years of annual visits to conventions all over the world. Either believe the anecdote or assume he made it up.

I think I remember seeing it in a separate interview with someone else a few months later, but it was a long time ago.

How do you even debunk such a factoid? You could ask one writer and he might say no. But an FX person might say yes. The writer might not have been there when the FX guys were deciding on how to craft the effect they needed. And vice versa. The pitching writer may have intended it, but the intention might not have survived the rewrites by other writers, and the info never made it to the FX guys. I dunno.
 
How do you even debunk such a factoid? You could ask one writer and he might say no.
I just figured that if they went into it to connect it with the movie, the answer would be pretty straightforward and not a gray area unless they had backpedaled on it. I mean, if any of the TV series were to do a warp 10 around the sun, I would hope they would mention a clear connection to "The Voyage Home," for example.
 
I just figured that if they went into it to connect it with the movie, the answer would be pretty straightforward.

But even a throwaway line complicates things for people who have never seen ST V. Some staunch fans remember the Roddenberry's stance had been that "parts of ST V are apocryphal". At some point it was decided not to make the link explicit. It's an Easter egg for fans and novelists to talk about decades later.
 
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