News TFF: the big ol' head identified

[NewHeavensNewEarth]

In the film Star Trek: The Final Frontier, the crew travels to the center of the galaxy and has a confrontation with a big ol' head.

In the TNG episode "The Nth Degree," the crew travels to the center of the galaxy and meets up with a big ol' head.

Putting the pieces together, is it safe to say that the TFF "god" is a Cytherian, the race the Enterprise-D encountered?

Interestingly, neither employed starships but seemed to have immense power. Additionally, they both rocked beards that make my nose itch just looking at them. Perhaps this Cytherian was an outcast/prisoner among his people, and wanted to make a jailbreak to get back at his kindred (along with the rest of the galaxy). At least we know that either way, at the center of it all is a big ol' head that may or may not want to destroy you.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Putting the pieces together, is it safe to say that the TFF "god" is a Cytherian, the race the Enterprise-D encountered?

Yes, the writers' room staff intended that the two beings were connected. They just decided not to make it explicit in dialogue. (This from Richard Arnold during his Australian convention slide presentation of that year's episodes.)

The God Being ("The One") also features in the "Q Continuum" novel trilogy by Greg Cox, alongside an old foe of Q's, 0 (pronounced "Nil"), plus the Gorgon, and even (*), the typewritten name for the creature from "The Day of the Dove", all fighting against Q, Q2, the Q Female, Q Junior and Quinn.

The Cytherians return in the novel, John Jackson Miller's "Takedown", "where a renegade Cytherian augments eight 'diplomats' from various key powers in the Alpha Quadrant and 'programs' them to attack assorted long-range Federation communication outposts; the intention is that, while the attacks themselves are not intended to cause any actual loss of life, the resulting hostility will lead to the Cytherians being identified as the cause of the attacks and encourage them to remain in isolation." ("Memory Alpha".)

 

[NCC-73515]

Interesting connection! They also both lured ships to them...

 

[Maurice]

I wouldn’t put much stock in anything Richard Arnold says. He’s got a track record of getting things wrong. Fer instance: LINK.

 

[Dukhat]

Logically, there’s no way the Enterprise-A (or the Klingon BoP following them, for that matter) could have reached the center of the galaxy in the time allotted, under its own power. Therefore they only thought they were at the center of the galaxy but in fact were only in an unexplored area of the Alpha Quadrant.

 

[F. King Daniel]

In the TNG episode "The Nth Degree," the crew travels to the center of the galaxy and meets up with a big ol' head.

I suspect that's just a holographic projection of a head, and they have bodies underneath. The "god" creature appears to be energy and can project whatever it wants onto it's surface.

So maybe only similar in the most superficial of ways?

 

[Sir Rhosis]

Always assumed it was supposed to be Jehovah/Yahweh.
Sir Rhosis

 

[Maurice]

Always assumed it was supposed to be Jehovah/Yahweh.
Sir Rhosis

You mean Elohim?

 

[Lance]

He's Admiral Hanson's ancestor.

 

[Sir Rhosis]

You mean Elohim?

This too! I mean, they obviously spared no expense getting Chuck Heston's "Ten Commandments" wig and beard for the scene.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I wouldn’t put much stock in anything Richard Arnold says. He’s got a track record of getting things wrong. Fer instance: LINK.

OMG, he lied to the dumb Australians every year! LOL.

On this particular matter, it seemed a reasonable anecdote and I am positive I saw the factoid backed up in official interviews with people from the writers' room.

 

[Dukhat]

Always assumed it was supposed to be Jehovah/Yahweh.
Sir Rhosis

You know, it never occurred to me that the being shown at the end of STV was actually God. My mind is blown now.

 

[Lance]

Shatner's concept, before it got watered down, was that the being would actually be the literal God, but also that God and the Devil were the same being all along. It's easy to see why this was changed, though even in the finished product the lack of answers leaves such an interpretation still possible, if ambiguous.

 

[Maurice]

OMG, he lied to the dumb Australians every year! LOL.

On this particular matter, it seemed a reasonable anecdote and I am positive I saw the factoid backed up in official interviews with people from the writers' room.

Caveat emptor is all I'm saying.

 

[Tenacity]

Always assumed it was supposed to be Jehovah/Yahweh.

My take is that the big giant head was just a slightly powerful being, and in no way was supposed to have been "god."

 

[Sir Rhosis]

^^^Let me rephrase for clarity--I meant to say that the "entity" took the stereotypical appearance of the Judeo-Christian god (flowing hair and beard), not that it was literally "GOD."

Sir Rhosis

 

[NCC-73515]

It also appeared as various other gods, like an Andorian one.

 

[Haggis and tatties]

Poor god like creature, you can see they are both the same as the torpedo, or some remains from the 1701-A, are still there blasted into its non existent forehead with all the damage it did on impact, possibly explainig its personality change towards TNG crew or any ship it comes across. lol

 

[thribs]

The Q Continuum trilogy answered that question.

 

[FormerLurker]

Logically, there’s no way the Enterprise-A (or the Klingon BoP following them, for that matter) could have reached the center of the galaxy in the time allotted, under its own power. Therefore they only thought they were at the center of the galaxy but in fact were only in an unexplored area of the Alpha Quadrant.

My take has always been that the 'god' creature was imprisoned in a pocket of the Great Barrier, and that the Barrier had been constructed so that it might get out between galaxies, but can't get back in to this one. The Barrier wraps around not the entire Galaxy, but the parts of it, and the pocket is between galactic arms somehow.