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You're missing the point? I loved the original Terminator and it had a female hero. I loved the first alien and it had a female hero. What I don't like is a obvious feminist/sjw agenda change to a franchise just for the sake of a message. We had 3 female leads in this movie and the Latino female is now the savior of mankind. It totally obliterated what the series was all about which is John Connors. Using a Latino female is a obvious SJW talking point because of what's going on at our border. Genysis also made the mistake of ruining John Connors which is why it failed(that movie also just sucked as a whole). They lost big money on this movie and we won't be seeing another unless it's a cheap direct to video. No one's buying this crap anymore. They could have just had Sarah as the main hero and an older John that would become what he was to become just much later on and then bring in new characters to assist. But instead they went a certain route because of the supposed woke popularity. Well that gamble looks like it will lose them millions? I find that highly amusing.
i thought the twist they did -- saying that it was NOT about a SPECIFIC person, but rather that "anyone" could be the "savior" of humanity was a good one, and gets us out of this John Connor rut that we never got past. I thought it was especially cool that Sarah thought that she was the mother of the savior like her, rather than THE person, was interesting, and having Sarah come to grips with that. It worked VERY well with her arc. Also, the fact that it is a Mexican i thought ALSO played well into Sarah's history of being down there, knowing SPanish, etc. While they definitely used the current border crisis, it made a lot of sense given what we know about Sarah.
It makes for a good theme going forward -- people willing to do ANYTHING, especially risk/sacrifice their lives for somoeone who inspires them.
"Wokeness" doesn't ALWAYS equal losing money. See Black Panther and Wonder WOman (millions of others did. SOmetimes mutliple times).
But i would agree that making a movie of it with the subtelty of a Christian evangelistic movie isn't going to make it a popular or admired one.
Oh...and one last thing about the death of John -- it hits th reality of parents who lose their children... no parent should bury thei child...especially one where she KNEW he could do great things... that's not "wokeness", that REALNESS
If this movie failed it has nothing to do with SJW agenda stuff. The blame is mostly because they failed to capsure peoples imagination with it's new Terminator. This is why I said awhile back they needed someone in the role that was big as Arnold in the day and also someone that looks the part. Like The Rock or Hemsworth or Elba. People would show up to see Sarah Connor fight The Rock but not just some random dude they if lucky remember him on Agents of Shield. Jason
i'd agree... but RObert Patrick was able to make his Temrinator menacing...just the writing didn't really bring out Gabriel Luna's Terminator as memorable
I doubt very much that the movie's "woke"ness had anything to do with the box office, and that it is purely down to the mainstream movie goers simply not being interested. I think there have just been to many disappointing movies at this point, and apparently the good or at least decent word of mouth for this one simply isn't enough to counteract that.
I'd agree on this... the first "reboot" might have gotten people excited, but when we had, for a me, a sort of "Man of STeel" movie in Genesys (where all the good stuff got sabotaged by bad stuff that people talked about more).... so unless there was an excitement like we saw with The Force Awakens, those bad feelings of TWO previous reboots. You'd need to have that kind of excitement (or like what we saw with TV Flash, when we heard word of different things like John Wesley SHipp being involved).
And being out on virtually Halloween... i dunno... doesn't make for good timing.
