The average UK series is 6 episodes long, so she would have plenty of time to do both. Plus given how dire the state of English comedy is at the moment - with the exception of The IT Crowd and Peep Show - it would probably only last a series anyway.
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The average UK series is 6 episodes long, so she would have plenty of time to do both. Plus given how dire the state of English comedy is at the moment - with the exception of The IT Crowd and Peep Show - it would probably only last a series anyway.
John Henry's actions made John's jump inevitable. There isn't a timeline in which he wouldn't have done it.
I really need to draw out all of these times lines, taking all of the movies and show into consideration. I made something for Star Trek a long time ago, andI want to give this a go as well. I'll see what I can draw up.
It had to be from the future. His chip had the same chemical that corrupted it when it was exposed to oxygen that the Rosie terminator (who targeted Sherman) had. I'm not sure how it was more primitive.
Plus, Skynet or the government being able to create such a good infiltrator at this point presents a lot of logical problems for the future.
I think Terminator might be given the same courtesy. Terminator and Enterprise have a lot in common right now.
I don't seem to recall a confirmation that the series has been renewed yet. Enterprise's was announced shortly before Zero Hour aired. RossBond's assurances aside.
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Contact Fox and the WB, let them know that YOU watch. Let them know how many people watch in your family. Let them know if you DVR, Itunes, or Amazon…or Live without a Nielsen Box.
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Watch the show online on Fox.Com (preferred as you cannot skip the ads) or Hulu. YOUTUBE DOES NOT COUNT.
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Season Three Petition
E! Online's Save One Show
Contact Fox and the WB, let them know that YOU watch. Let them know how many people watch in your family. Let them know if you DVR, Itunes, or Amazon…or Live without a Nielsen Box.
Download this video HERE burn it to a DVD and send it, along with a letter from you, to both FOX and the WB.
There is also a campaign to send pancake mix (in boxes not bags).
Watch the show online on Fox.Com (preferred as you cannot skip the ads) or Hulu. YOUTUBE DOES NOT COUNT.
If you DVR the show watch it prior to Monday night at 8:00pm. These numbers are included.
For more information: The Sarah Connor Society
Pancake mix? 
The funny thing about using branch theory instead of predestination is Skynet's and John Connor's original decisions to send fighters back to 1984 are exposed as irrelevant to their own survival. Their past as they know it is unchangeable because the time machine sends people to alternate universes. The proof is the passage of time between the Terminator going through and Reese going through. It was at least seconds, probably minutes and maybe hours, based on the amount of knowledge and preparation Kyle reveals (learning nothing dead will go, volunteering for the mission and realizing it's "a chance to meet the legend", and being told the time machine would be blown up after he went though). How did that transpire if an unchallenged Terminator destroyed their past? If you don't use the Star Trek Guardian of Forever conceit, the only explanation is that their past as they know it did not change. When Kyle goes through, he creates a new universe branching from the past of his old universe. One could question why the Terminator is even present in the past Kyle goes to, since it didn't exist in Kyle's past except for his knowledge that one had gone through the time machine ahead of him -- unless, it's a repeating cycle and there was a previous Terminator and a previous Kyle.
In the end, a particular Kyle from a particular future irrevocably becomes John's father in the universe where it happens. The Kyle that teenage John meets in T:SCC is from John's own universe and will never be his father. It's not necessary to send that Kyle back in time, no more than Senator John Connor in the peaceful future needs to do anything to assure his own birth.
In the end, a particular Kyle from a particular future irrevocably becomes John's father in the universe where it happens. The Kyle that teenage John meets in T:SCC is from John's own universe and will never be his father. It's not necessary to send that Kyle back in time, no more than Senator John Connor in the peaceful future needs to do anything to assure his own birth.
I thought it was going to be trousers?Pancake mix?
Actually, when you think about it, no method of time travel for Terminator really makes sense. T1 on its own could be accepted as a last ditch effort; a plan that had little chance of success. Maybe Skynet didn't know how things really would work out. Everything from T2 onward becomes redundant and nonsensical when it comes to time travel, no matter which explanation is used. SCC is the worst offender for this, probably because of the sheer quantity of time traveling and little thought put into it.
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Not necessarily.
Once you get into Quantum Mechanics things go way differently than intuition tells you so. Most importantly; multiple possibilities can exist at the same time, until a certain probability gets satisfied (most often when an observer looks at things) and the whole thing collapses just into one option.
Let's repeat Shrodingers cat as a simple explanation:
We get a cat. We put him in a box. We put a radioactive rock in with the cat and close the box. Now, the radioactive collapse of the rock is a probability function. How much radioactivity the cat absorbs is thus a function of that function. And whether not the cat is dead, in turn is a function of that function.
In short; the chance that the cat is alive or dead, is dependent on one function of chance that contains this all.
We wait; time passes. And somewhere along the way, the chance the cat is alive is about equal to the cat being dead. At this point, according to quantum mechanics, the cat is indeed BOTH alive, AND dead at the same time. Both possibilities exist simultaneously in a state of flux. It isn't until someone opens the box that the probability function collapses and either one or the other becomes a reality.
If you would apply this to multiple realities/timelines, if both options have a high enough possibility of occurring, both would would exist in their own timeline. However, if the possibility of one option is too low, it would not become its own timeline, it would simply disappear. (Of course, wait long enough, and the chance the cat's still alive would become so low the probability function would collapse on its own without anyone having to look at it.)
Time travel scenario would essentially be the same:
1. Terminator goes back in time. There is nobody there to stop him, he kills Sarah Connor, Skynet wins.
2. However, this has a certain possiblity of occurring; and the future timeline where John Connor defeats Skynet and sends Kyle Reese after the Terminator also has a possibility of occurring, and thus both options exist simultaneously at the same time.
3. Giving John Connor enough time to send Kyle Reese through the time machine. Which has its own probability of occurring, and so the options, "Terminator alone kills Sarah" and "Kyle Reese goes back as well" exist for a while at the same time, until something makes the function collapse; resulting either in two time lines, one for either option; or one of the options has too low a probability of occurring, and simply entirely disappears.
Seconded. Excellent season finale. More, please.
And if the worst happens, at least let them finish it in a direct-to-DVD feature or in a novel (written by, say, Toni Graphia).
But not while Friedman wrote the finale then (not that long ago), or he presumably wouldn't have left the major cliffhanger.
Then again, even if FOX did decide unofficially, WB could still opt to go to another network, so we may not know for a while yet as WB looks at options.
Now that it seems likely Dollhouse will be cancelled, TSCC's chances may have gone up slightly, on the assumption FOX would want to keep an SF show in the air.
...unless it's an indication that FOX has lost faith in Friday sci-fi and plans to use the Terminator/Dollhouse slot for something else...
Well we'll find out its fate on Friday May 18th when Fox announces their schedule...
... three days before Salvation premieres.
And I doubt WB would want the pall of the series cancellation cast over the premiere of the new movie.
Honestly, I think that if WB offered the show at even more of a fire sale price (possible now with several supporting cast members gone), that optimistically Fox might opt for a 9- or 13-episode order. Failing that, WB could shop it to a cable network; cable does seem the final refuge of sci-fi shows these days.
nx, would you mind posting here the addresses for the offices at Fox and WB that we should deluge with letters?
I'm afraid that they really can't do that. WB already sells TSCC to Fox at bare bottom prices and has significant advertising dollars invested in the show. Plus, several major backers have begun pulling out of TSCC I'm sorry to say.
I am afraid - board rules - that I cannot post them in the thread. I will PM them to anyone who wants them.
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