Terminator-222 "Born to Run" - Season Finale <SPO>

[Snaploud]

Just saw this interesting quote from Brian Austin Green where he talks about what happened at the end (making this the OFFICIAL explanation for people who were doubtful):

Green elaborates, "You have this episode where John Connor travels to a future where John Connor never existed. I don't know if people completely get it because we work on a string theory, which we've dealt with during the season. We dealt with that with Jessie, in the future that she came from there was Charles Fisher, who tortured everyone. In the future I came from, he never existed. I don't remember him. We were still together within these parallel futures but they were still different and they still had their own paths. This is the same concept. For John Connor to travel to a future where he never existed, where Kyle Reese never left, where Derek and Kyle are still fighting side by side, where Allison (the human Cameron was based on) is still very much present, what becomes of John? What better situation for somebody to grow up in and become the future leader than that? Than to be fighting in what he's been trying to prevent? Not just being the top dog, being listened to for everything, but having to actually listen and follow."

http://tv.ign.com/articles/973/973668p1.html

so (atleast part of season 3) will have John fight the machines and defeat SKYnet (and grow up, so, mid season actor swap?) capture the time machine, and go back, so he can fight the machines again?

I think the plotline would only work if the Kyle Reese-led resistance is in some way ineffective. What would be the point of traveling back in time if he has nothing unique to offer the resistance (as leader)?

 

[Vendikarr]

NX1701g...Are you gonna keep your avatar up-to-date on the fate of the series? So if I come in here and your avatar says "Terminated" its canceled and if it says "Come with me if you want to live." the show is renewed?

My avatar will reflect the state of the series.

Brian Austin Green said today that the writers began work on scripts for Season 3.

A script order is always a good sign. Or are they just breaking the next season so they have something to show Fox if they are considering a renewal.

 

[David cgc]

I think the plotline would only work if the Kyle Reese-led resistance is in some way ineffective. What would be the point of traveling back in time if he has nothing unique to offer the resistance (as leader)?

Attempting to prevent judgement day?

 

[Snaploud]

I think the plotline would only work if the Kyle Reese-led resistance is in some way ineffective. What would be the point of traveling back in time if he has nothing unique to offer the resistance (as leader)?

Attempting to prevent judgement day?

Maybe...but BAG mentioned John "grow[ing] up...[to] become the future leader."

 

[Verse]

I think the plotline would only work if the Kyle Reese-led resistance is in some way ineffective. What would be the point of traveling back in time if he has nothing unique to offer the resistance (as leader)?

Attempting to prevent judgement day?

Judgment Day is unavoidable, stopping it would ruin the franchise.

The Idea that John goes to the future and learns to fight the terminators in a future where they are doomed to fail then goes back to Judgment Day and leads the resistance when nobody else has any experience fighting terminators makes good sense to me.

 

[ThunderAeroI]

I think the plotline would only work if the Kyle Reese-led resistance is in some way ineffective. What would be the point of traveling back in time if he has nothing unique to offer the resistance (as leader)?

Attempting to prevent judgement day?

Judgment Day is unavoidable, stopping it would ruin the franchise.

The Idea that John goes to the future and learns to fight the terminators in a future where they are doomed to fail then goes back to Judgment Day and leads the resistance when nobody else has any experience fighting terminators makes good sense to me.

At which point his people whould say. How come you know so much about these things, and what is he to say?

 

[TheGodfatherSJP]

Attempting to prevent judgement day?

Judgment Day is unavoidable, stopping it would ruin the franchise.

The Idea that John goes to the future and learns to fight the terminators in a future where they are doomed to fail then goes back to Judgment Day and leads the resistance when nobody else has any experience fighting terminators makes good sense to me.

At which point his people whould say. How come you know so much about these things, and what is he to say?

Yes well, if you view some of the T4 trailers you'll see that's precisely the reason why he's a general but not in charge. People are suspicious of him because of what he knows, and they don't know how he knows it. This is what I get for posting over @ terminatorwiki.com

Actually, guys, they've got a pretty in depth Save TSCC campaign going on over there. Check it out if you're interested. Mailing addresses, petitions, the works.

 

[nx1701g]

^ terminator.wikia.com is the better one. Terminatorwiki lets fanfic.

Also, John Connor is not a General in the new film. Yes he leads his own group, but he's not a General.

 

[Verse]

Attempting to prevent judgement day?

Judgment Day is unavoidable, stopping it would ruin the franchise.

The Idea that John goes to the future and learns to fight the terminators in a future where they are doomed to fail then goes back to Judgment Day and leads the resistance when nobody else has any experience fighting terminators makes good sense to me.

At which point his people whould say. How come you know so much about these things, and what is he to say?

I have to go back and watch it but I'm fairly sure that in the original movie Kyle says that John taught them ways to fight the machines. He doesn't necessarily have to come out and say he knows everything.

 

[3D Master]

^ terminator.wikia.com is the better one. Terminatorwiki lets fanfic.

What?

It lets fanfic what?

Burn?

Use the toilet?

Drown?

Die?

Finish your sentences please!

 

[nx1701g]

^ Terminatorwiki on Fox lets people post fanfic as true. Terminator.wikia.com is moderated and only canon information is allowed.

 

[TheGodfatherSJP]

^ terminator.wikia.com is the better one. Terminatorwiki lets fanfic.

Also, John Connor is not a General in the new film. Yes he leads his own group, but he's not a General.

Fine, he's a Colonel. And considering this is the Fan site for the Originator of All Things Fan Fiction (please don't make me cite the Fan-zines), I don't think we have much room to complain about fanfiction.

Most of that stuff is BAD though. Every once in a while you find a good story, but between the bad grammer, poor syntax, characters behaving abnormal, crazy plot connections...

...you know what? I'm stopping before I get a headache.

 

[nx1701g]

Fine, he's a Colonel. And considering this is the Fan site for the Originator of All Things Fan Fiction (please don't make me cite the Fan-zines), I don't think we have much room to complain about fanfiction.

We do when people take it as fact (yes I have had questions from people asking me when did Vin Diesel appear in terminator).

 

[nx1701g]

We have the DVR numbers:

Total Viewers:
Live viewers: 2.93 million
Live + SD: 3.492 million*
Live + 7: 4.399 million
Total DVR Viewers: 1.469 million
DVR increase: 50%*
Total DVR viewership: 33.4%
18-49 Demo:
Live viewers: 1.03 million
Live + SD: 1.30 million*
Live + 7: 1.75 million
Total DVR Viewers: .72 million
DVR increase: 70%*
Total DVR viewership: 41%
* These are the numbers to pay most attention to.
Live+SD = Live viewers + DVR viewers that watched by 3am
Live+7 = Live viewers + DVR viewers that watched

Season 2 is also available for order from Amazon.