thestrangequark said:
=Cool! I love the learning about the history of symbols like that. I think my favorite example of cross-culture symbol adoption is the Ichthys, which for Christians is well-known as the Jesus fish, but for early pagans represented motherhood and fertility as not a fish, but a vulva. I find that hilarious.
I wasn't aware of that. Yes, it's quite interesting what tattoo threads can reveal

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I've been thinking for quite a while about getting my first tattoo and what's mostly held me back is what it should be off. I then at long last came to think about Carl Sagan's speech about "the pale blue dot" that is our home. But i realized that just simple blue dot might be a bit boring. So I've thought that maybe something inspired by one of the photos from the Apollo missions of the Earth. I've always been fond of this:
http://dennisgnosis.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/apollo-8-earth-rise1.jpg
So I've made it a goal that now that I'm making real progress with weight loss I've decided to go trough with it once I hit a certain weight. As a reward and a goal to my self. And knowing myself if I like it, which I think I will, I'll set another goal for the next one. I think that once I get started I'll keep going. Just have to keep them nice looking. Portraits and tribal symbols you'll never find on me.
There are some really beautiful designs of planet earth. In addition, I think getting a tattoo as a reward is a really strong motivation. I'm actually thinking about getting another one - maybe around my ankle - but I can't afford it at the moment. So, it's a motivation for me, too, to sink my teeth into work and to change something about my financial situation.
I will eventually get a tattoo. It took forever for me to decide, but I figured out the one I wanted, and still want. See, that's something I have always worried about, was that I'd get a nice tattoo, then a few years later would want something different. Anyway, this is what I want (I've shown it before):
That's an interesting choice. Do you want to get it in black or will it be with colours?
I'm not much for portrait and tribal tats either. Tribal tats are awesome on members of the tribe, but it's just a bit too much cultural appropriation plus trendy dudebro nonsense on white people. I don't think I'd even get anything from my own tribe tattooed!
Sagan has also inspired me..."We are the custodians of life's meaning" is something I wouldn't mind tattooing, but I'm not sure if I want any more text tattoos, and if I did, I'd have trouble deciding between that and the last line of my favorite Shakespearian sonnet: Till my bad angel fire my good one out.
A singer, whose name I forgot, hung the design of a new tattoo next to his bathroom mirror for at least two weeks before getting the ink done. That way he was forced to look at it several times a day. If he still liked it after two weeks, he got it. Maybe this approach could help you to find the right design?
Here is the sketch I did today of my thoughts for my new hummingbird. I will also have the current bird tweaked to make them more similar. The idea was to incorporate the style of the star, and to make everything more cohesive. The old bird will be outlined in black, and the new on colored in to match the old one, but with the stained glass look of the star.
I'm sure the finished product won't be exactly like this, but this is the general idea:
It's awesome. I'm always getting jealous if I see how skilled people are around this board. And now I'm seeing where you are going with this. Since the star on your back is really beautiful, I'm sure to have the hummingbird(s) done in a similar style will indeed make everything more cohasive.
I've always planned on getting a tattoo someday but my weight has fluctuated a lot over the past 10 years. I went from being overweight to being intensely thin to overweight again then finally just to average. So until that is somewhat finalized, I am hesitant. I figure if it still fluctuates more in my lifetime, there is always the option of getting it in a place that doesn't tend to matter as much (wrists, ankles) however I have a phobia of anything touching my veins. The needle to get the tattoo I know logically would not penetrate my veins, but considering I won't let any doctor do bloodwork on me ever and the one time he did I passed out and had a panic attack...I don't think it's an option.
I agree with
thestrangequark. The shoulder and upper back are good places where a weight shift wouldn't affect a tattoo so much. And I would also like the see a better picture of the necklace.
thestrangequark said:
I think it can also be a therapeutic thing. I only realized recently how therapeutic my own tattoos have been. I think for a lot of people (especially women), tattooing can be about having control over one's own body. Like many women, I've had control over my own body taken away (in more than one way), tattooing gave me back the power I'd lost. I think the prime example of this is women who have mastectomy tattoos. They're beautiful things, those!
I totally agree again. For some people tattoos might just be a fashion thing, but for others they have therapeutic values. I've got my second tattoo because I had trouble with relationships. So it was my way of saying: love is complicated. And somehow it gave me a lot of self-confidence.
On a side note, when people see my tattoos they often say: "Oh, you've got a tattoo. You don't look like it". So, I even believe tattoos can help to overcome prejudices. People who get body art are not necessarily a member of some subculture or whatever. Some just like to decorate their skin.
thestrangequark said:
For Christmas last year I bought my mom a tattoo. She had an old one on her shoulder that was poorly done and badly faded, and she really hated it. She's on disability though, and could never afford to get it covered up. She chose a sugar skull with five roses. She chose it because it's a celebration of life while acknowledging death; the five roses are for me and my 4 siblings, two of whom passed away in childhood. She told me that she struggled for a long time with reconciling happiness and grief; she felt guilty for enjoying my sisters and I when Holly and Christopher were dead, and holidays were especially hard as they both passed away around that time (Christopher in November and Holly in December). All this considered, I think for her the tattoo was therapeutic as well.
Your mother rocks! Mine freaked out when I got my tattoos. She is still very reluctant. And I'm very sorry to hear about your siblings.
Since tattoos function as a constant reminder, I, too, think they can be a good way to deal with grief. You really have to pinpoint the source of your sorrow, which isn't always easy. I'm also very found of the idea to choose something opposite to grief, like in your mother's case the celebration of life. Again, it's all about balance

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Zion Ravescene said:
[...] I do have a few ideas in mind, though: the one I've always wanted is the Symbol of Torment [...]
Planescape Torment is still one of my favorite games. Have you ever played it or is it more like a coincidence that you choose this symbol? A symbol like this is great because it can be recognized by a minority of people but not by a larger crowd. So it's almost like a secret sign.