TAS made real....

[STEPhon IT]

Three different looks for the nacelles domes. Top image has them similar to the domes of the 1st and 2nd pilot Enterprise. Middle image mimics the nacelles domes of the Galileo shuttlecraft fullsize exterior mockup. Bottom image evokes the amber like nacelle domes of the lighted series production Enterprise.



If the nacelle domes were lighted I think I would lean toward the amber. But as a solid colour I find myself liking the white primarily because it's more like the Galileo exterior mockup.

Thoughts?

Note: I found a shade of gold closer to what I initially wanted for the triangles under the bow. I also added a small gold coloured detail on the nose to replace the out-of-place-looking dish seen on the original drawings.

Could the fan lights, seen on a Starship Class vessel, be an opinion for this spacecraft?

 

[Warped9]

The domes of the fullsize Galileo were initially supposed to light similarly to the Enterprise so it could look whit when turned off then look rather amber when turned on.

Unfortunately I haven’t yet been able to mimic that lighting effect in Sketchup, not even as a still image.

 

[trynda1701]

Unfortunately I haven’t yet been able to mimic that lighting effect in Sketchup, not even as a still image.

I wouldn't worry about that. Even the better TOS-R effects never matched the original effect on the 11 foot studio model I think.I

As well as a few access panels on the rear and under the nose like the Class F has, could there be a few of the little probe protrubrances that were on the Harry Mudd ship?

 

[Warped9]

There is a panel under the nose on the port side. I have panels on either side of the aft end. I’m undecided about adding any to the aft end.

 

[Warped9]

One of the things I did not really address in this thread, but might bear a look at are interior sets. It's one thing to speculate about new miniatures built for TAS (assuming available time and money), but thats small potatoes compared to building new sets.

Take an episode like "The Slaver Weapon." Building a new shuttlecraft miniature would be reasonably easy, but since it is a significant part of the story it follows you would also likely need an interior mockup. Of course, this supports even moreso just reusing the Class F miniature and exterior and interior mockups that already existed to save costs, but we are fantasizing here. Note that this would have been true for the shuttlecraft seen in "Mudd’s Passion" and "The Ambergris Element" as well.

Furthermore there is also the Kzinti Police Ship and its interior (yes, I will be tackling the Kzinti ship). Lastly there is the planetoid surface and the Kzinti themselves.

TOS did not have life support belts so, unless they introduced them, they would have resorted to the environmental suits we already saw in "The Tholian Web." Having said that it would make even more sense (in terms of saving costs) to simply rewrite the story so it is set on a planetoid with a breathable environment. But you can go either way given the EV suits already exist for use.

They already had a planetary landscape for use so it would then be a matter redressing it to look like a frozen landscape.

The Kzinti ship interiors could be mostly cleverly redressed standing Enterprise sets.

But the biggest hurdle would be the Kzinti themselves. The best makeup available of the day gave us the apes of 2001: A Space Odyssey. Perhaps that approach could have been adapted to create a reasonably convincing (for the era) Kzinti. In TOS the closest precedents were the Gorn and the Mugato and even those haven't aged all that well. And remember you would need more than one costume for a small collection of Kzinti. Even under the best of conditions I don't know how TOS could have pulled this off. The alternative could have been to reimagine the Kzinti as a different race or to utilize a variation of something already seen such as renegade Andorians. Or, Orion pirates were already established so (as Star Trek Continues showed) featuring Orion pirates rather than Kzinti pirates could work. Painting someone blue or green with antenna and/or a wig is a lot easier and cheaper than creating a full body costume to make something really alien.

 

[FormerLurker]

yes, I will be tackling the Kzinti ship)

Mind the sharp edges as you drag it to the grass.

 

[Maurice]

I never understood why Star Trek Animated kept inventing new shuttles. Since they tended to re-use cels, it would have been better to just design one or do the Galileo and save time and trouble, plus every new cel of it could add to the library and give them more variety as the show went on.

Pretty sure Justman suggested the idea of something like the life support belts in the 3rd season, but I'll have to look and figure out where I saw this.

 

[Warped9]

I’m not sure, but was it always the same illustrators? If different illustrators then maybe they weren’t aware of what came before. Except for the aquashuttle the Class F design would have worked just fine in the TAS episodes with shuttlecraft. Indeed if the episodes had been done live-action thats exactly what they would have done.

 

[FormerLurker]

Pretty sure Justman suggested the idea of something like the life support belts in the 3rd season, but I'll have to look and figure out where I saw this.

I wonder if the life support belts were meant to be an extrapolation of the climate control uniforms we saw in "Spock's Brain."

 

[trynda1701]

I wonder if the life support belts were meant to be an extrapolation of the climate control uniforms we saw in "Spock's Brain."

Good point.

Those were developed after that small mishap on Alfa 177 where Sulu and company nearly froze to death because of the transporter malfunction, and all the shuttles were in for maintenance till the following Tuesday!

 

[fireproof78]

Three different looks for the nacelles domes. Top image has them similar to the domes of the 1st and 2nd pilot Enterprise. Middle image mimics the nacelles domes of the Galileo shuttlecraft fullsize exterior mockup. Bottom image evokes the amber like nacelle domes of the lighted series production Enterprise.

I'm leaning towards the middle one. But, I think you have a fantastic piece here.

 

[publiusr]

I like the amber, but only at warp. White for space normal speeds.

 

[Warped9]

If this were actually built as a miniature I think it unlikely the domes would have been lighted. The Galileo miniature only had the impulse engines lighted, but not the domes. The exterior mockup had semi translucent domes that were originally supposed to be lighted, but never were. And makes sense if we assume the nacelles are turned off or deactivated when the craft is landed.

White nacelle domes are consistent with the familiar Class F miniature and exterior mockup, and the white stands out somewhat because the Class F’s nacelles and lower hull are a medium to darker grey as opposed to the light grey upper hull. But on the scoutship the majority of the hull is light grey so white nacelle domes sort of blend in.

To that end I’m finding myself leaning back to the red domes simply for the sake of a bit more noticeable colour.

 

[Warped9]

Approaching Beta Lyrae.



This is a bit quick-and-dirty. This is not a capture of a piece of artwork or a reworked photograph. I looked up existing images of what some think Beta Lyrae might look like as well as grainy photographs, then I worked up this image myself on Photoshop. Then I superimposed my shuttlecraft model onto the image.

 

[publiusr]

Looks a lot like WR-104...

 

[Warped9]

Landed.

 

[trynda1701]

Loving the artwork!

 

[Santaman]

Nice work.

 

[Warped9]

TOS could have done this with a matte painting. I think I might retouch this by adding Spock, Sulu and Uhura into the image.

 

[Bernard Guignard]

Very nice