TAS made real....

[Warped9]

On Earth (in the real world) very large creatures tend to be on the somewhat ponderous and generally slow moving side. Elephants and whales come immediately to mind. Massive real world dinosaurs likely weren't all that fleet-of-foot. It leads one to wonder if a primate the size of King Kong could even support its own weight and walk. With that in mind creatures several stories tall really requires a serious suspension of disbelief.

However, TOS might have a precedent in "The Galileo Seven." In that 7+ feet tall bipedal creatures menace the shuttlecraft crew and one even attempts to break into the shuttlecraft by trying to crack it open with a boulder. Perhaps someone in a suitable costume(s) could do something similar to "wreck" a miniature of the heavy lander. If they can create a Gorn or Excalibian then they should have been able to fashion some kind of rockzilla creature. And you don't have to actually wreck your precious miniature. You could perhaps fashion a sort of cardboard or plastic shell for a quick shot of the craft being crushed. Then you have a separate miniature that is really a pile of barely recognizable rubble.

 

[Henoch]

Given enough time (which TOS didn't have even if under unually ideal circumstances) I imagine something in the form of stop-motion f/x could have been used to depict some kind of monster to threaten and wreck the shuttlecraft miniature.

In any case that element of the story would most likely have to be rethought and reimagined.

To save money and time, it would probably be a man in a rubber costume a la Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea or per Ultraman or Godzilla.

 

[Warped9]

To save money and time, it would probably be a man in a rubber costume a la Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea or per Ultraman or Godzilla.

Wasn’t the cyclops in LIS’ early episodes a guy in costume? There you go.

 

[Warped9]

 

[Santaman]

I like this version of that shuttle design.

 

[Warped9]

I like this version of that shuttle design.

Thanks. It is a more faithful take on the onscreen version, but it really shows how a vehicle of this size would never fit in the Enterprise’s hangar.

 

[Michael]

I think your Heavy Lander shuttle turned out magnificent, @Waped9! The lit “drive section” in the back looks awesome and I love that you made the nacelle struts the color of a light turquoise, just like the neck of the NCC-1701.

 

[Atolm]

SWEET!

 

[Henoch]

Thanks. It is a more faithful take on the onscreen version, but it really shows how a vehicle of this size would never fit in the Enterprise’s hangar.

It looks like it would fit in the hangar (depending on how long the bay is?), but it would fill up most of the space. No way to turn it around, though. Of course, the TAS Enterprise must be much larger than the TOS Enterprise, or does it use some sort of shuttle dimensional compression tech? (just joking.)

 

[Warped9]

The hangar flight deck as depicted in TAS with numerous oversized shuttlecraft parked in it would be an impossibility for a ship 947ft. It would require a ship scaled like in the JJtrek films.

For a 52ft. heavy lander you could conceivably get the craft into the hangar, but the other shuttlecraft would have to be stored below and/or removed.

 

[Warped9]

Some years ago I not only reconciled the exterior and interior of the TOS Class F shuttlecraft to come up with a 28ft. shuttlecraft, but I worked up the flight deck to show what it could really look like. Using this model I can show what a 52ft. heavy lander would look like on the flight deck.



Okay, you could get the lander onto the flight deck, but you couldn't turn it around or have any other craft in there.

So you could berth something like a lander in there for a short term specialized mission, but the standard shuttlecraft complement of 4 Class F shuttlecraft would have to be offloaded or stored below on the maintenance deck.

 

[Warped9]

 

[137th Gebirg]

Wow...that thing IS big!

 

[Albertese]

Your second image (Harry makes a bid for freedom) ...seems like Harry should be casting a shadow on the wall behind him. Other than that, these are great!

--Alex

 

[Warped9]

The light on Harry is from above—presumably the ceiling—so the shadows are downward on the floor. And how Harry is lit looks to bear that out.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Light routinely came from multiple sources on TOS.

Decker has a double shadow cast on the wall when he comes out of the ladder alcove.

http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/thumbnails.php?album=58&page=39

 

[Warped9]

 

[Warped9]

Looking ahead.










Two ships not shown above are the Orion raider and the Kzinti police ship. There were no drawings of those, but there are screencaps to be had.

 

[137th Gebirg]

For that last one, they say "RT SIDE" and "LFT SIDE", but there are some details that really don't match, particularly that one L-shaped thing that hangs out from a pylon off the main hull on the starboard side (from the "LFT SIDE" view) and then shown almost attached at the front of the hull on the "RT SIDE" view. That thing is going to be a challenge.

Cool designs, but not very well thought out on the part of the original designers. Some of it looks quite chaotic.

Looking forward to seeing what you come up with on these.

 

[Warped9]

There is no question that there is a lot of inconcictency in how these designs were drawn--not surprising given they weren't envisioning something that would actually have to be constructed physically. But it does leave room for interpretation. I think the real takeaway is to interpret the overall idea the artist as going for rather than slavish adherence to what was drawn inconsistently. Note, too, that the Enterprise was not really a slavish redraw of the TOS version as some of the lines, details and proportions are off. Same with the ship's interiors. To that end one can accept the TAS designs as somewhat loose renderings of the "real" versions.

As I have said upthread I think the robot transport and the Huron freighter were likely the most consistent and well thought out of the TAS designs.

Indeed the ship from "The Counter-Clock Incident" looks to be a nightmare, but the essential concept is evidently meant to be asymmetrical. And I don't really care for the aquashuttle as it doesn't look the least bit hydrodynamic.