• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Tardigrade lawsuit appealed

Status
Not open for further replies.
Geez, I had a bit of sympathy for him as a naive person who got in over his head, but that’s evaporated after seeing his recent comments.
 
Am I misremembering, or wasn't there a photo of a big tardigrade cut-out on set during filming? Because, like, wouldn't that have been before the tardigrade game imagery was released, and wouldn't that be pretty damning? Is that a photo that exists somewhere?
 
Am I misremembering, or wasn't there a photo of a big tardigrade cut-out on set during filming? Because, like, wouldn't that have been before the tardigrade game imagery was released, and wouldn't that be pretty damning? Is that a photo that exists somewhere?
What would have been damning for whom?
 
It would pretty conclusively prove that the Discovery team hadn't seen any of the Tardigrades game at that point.
And that would be more damning than filming a scene scripted to be about a tardigrade at the same time but without such a cut-out how exactly?
 
And that would be more damning than filming a scene scripted to be about a tardigrade at the same time but without such a cut-out how exactly?

I don't follow? My point was that I seem to recall such a thing, and if it exists, I'd be interested in a link to it. One of the occasional accusations of the anti-CBS crowd is that Ripper's specific design was a post-production VFX choice, and such a cut-out would argue against it.

Regardless, it's rather clear that the timeline isn't in Abdin's favor.
 
I don't follow?
It's always nice to actually have citations to a thing before declaring/implying that it's damning (or asking a leading question, which is basically the same thing). And since you didn't explicitly say who it would be damning to, I asked. I hope that's clear enough.
 
It's always nice to actually have citations to a thing before declaring/implying that it's damning (or asking a leading question, which is basically the same thing). And since you didn't explicitly say who it would be damning to, I asked. I hope that's clear enough.

:shrug: If I had a citation, I wouldn't need to ask for one, surely? And such a photo, if taken prior to Abdin's announcement, would be rather good evidence against his position. There's a difference between asking for evidence to suit a theory and asking if someone has evidence that I remembered seeing. And I'm well aware of what a leading question is--I taught my students about them today, actually! What a strange tone this conversation has taken.

Anyway, I don't know if anyone knows when these episodes were filmed, but here's the photo in question: https://twitter.com/CenterWillHold/status/917239269349052416?s=20
 
Heh ...
Who needs "support" when one has thousands of dollars flowing in with no strings attached.
And that's the crux of it. It's the era of monetizing other people's hate of modern Star Trek.

Alex Peters was making "true" Star Trek and people believed him based on a short film made by talented people who have all since had enough of his BS and left.

Midnight's Edge, Doomcock and friends tell Trek haters exactly what they want to hear, over and over again that everything's about to collapse at CBS Trek HQ, and their fans keep listening even though it never ever pans out. They want it to be true and the click money keeps coming in. (I really wish I thought of this one myself!)

This Anas guy might just somehow bring down that evil Fake Trek Discoverfake in court, and who knows what'll happen next? Maybe they'll give the franchise to Alex Peters, cancel that fake Patrick Stewart Trek show and bring back True Trek stars like Kate Vernon*:lol:


*Nothing against Kate, but obviously she was never in Star Trek.
 
What are the symptoms of an aneurysm? Because I think I had one while reading that interview.

I knew it would be great when he went "I'm respecting the ruling! Of course I do, that's why I want to void it!"

Or how he completely dodges the question on what his end goal is with some vague statements about "justice", or evades telling us, exactly, why he couldn't ask for help setting up a gofundme to help finish the game.

Then there's this:


It's a lawsuit. Why does your story being mentioned in the media matter? Or is it just that you know exactly that the court of (uninformed) public opinion is the only one you can "win" this case in?

And then this:


... and then it hit me. That phrasing, "has a homosexual act with". He's talking about that glory hole thing in his game, isn't he? So I checked, and yeah:


From here: http://anas-tronaut.blogspot.com/2019/03/game-developer-vs-game-player.html

So the Discovery writers didn't create Stamets and Culber as a sweet, loving couple because they wanted to create representation of gay people outside of very special episodes and tragic tales of woe, no they wrote them into the show because the glory hole mechanic in his game was just so compelling to witness they had to copy it.

Hulk. SMASH.
What's really disturbing to me is that the "glory hole sex" that Abdin describes and uses, isn't really nor has it been what one would call an exclusive or preferred "Gay" activity.
(at least not in my many years of experience)
The majority of guys looking for satisfaction in that manner are not openly Gay, they are (supposed) Straight men just looking to get off in one way or another.
To me, that demonstrates that Abdin is just exploiting something he doesn't really understand, which is quite insulting to the LGBTQ community.
 
I don't follow? My point was that I seem to recall such a thing, and if it exists, I'd be interested in a link to it. One of the occasional accusations of the anti-CBS crowd is that Ripper's specific design was a post-production VFX choice, and such a cut-out would argue against it.

Regardless, it's rather clear that the timeline isn't in Abdin's favor.

Originally Bryan Fuller wanted Ripper to be a regular member of the bridge crew, but it was deemed to expensive to have a CGI background character in nearly every episode. Fuller wanted to keep the tardigrade and that's how we ended up with Ripper being connected to the spore drive. I'm sure there would be tons of evidence, like character notes, a show bible and concept art that CBS could produce to prove that the idea for a tardigrade character was reached independently.

I find this whole situation really sad. Not for Abdin, but for how star trek fans are behaving. It really is disgusting that a segment of the fanbase want to cancel/damage a Star Trek series, because its not the way they want it to be. They really are just a bunch of petulant man-children. Like seriously, how fucking empty must their lives be to carry on like this?
 
:shrug: If I had a citation, I wouldn't need to ask for one, surely? And such a photo, if taken prior to Abdin's announcement, would be rather good evidence against his position. There's a difference between asking for evidence to suit a theory and asking if someone has evidence that I remembered seeing. And I'm well aware of what a leading question is--I taught my students about them today, actually! What a strange tone this conversation has taken.

Anyway, I don't know if anyone knows when these episodes were filmed, but here's the photo in question: https://twitter.com/CenterWillHold/status/917239269349052416?s=20
I can't tell you exactly when this was filmed, but I know that by June 14th they were filming Magic To Make The Sanest Man Go Mad (S01E07). You can see the date on the clapper thingy they use on film productions in the ninth picture here:

https://sciencefiction.com/2017/12/19/ten-behind-scenes-photos-star-trek-discovery/

Which is why even if Abdin's case was "undismissed" they could slap his main argument down with as little as the raw footage including the clapper thingies with the dates on it.

Also, here's a cute photo with one of the tardigrade cutouts with one of the writers:
https://mobile.twitter.com/extspace/status/917246527004913665
 
Originally Bryan Fuller wanted Ripper to be a regular member of the bridge crew, but it was deemed to expensive to have a CGI background character in nearly every episode.
Which points back to where this all started. If I remember correctly, there was an article that came after STID that proposed Kirk could have used tardigrades to repair the warp core while the Enterprise plummeted to Earth.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top