Tardigrade lawsuit appealed

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Krandor, Oct 12, 2019.

  1. BillJ

    BillJ History’s Greatest Monster Premium Member

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    I guess everyone gets up in the morning for different things. It is sad that this is their "thing", but I guess is less destructive than a lot of other things could be.

    I don't follow any of them, I only know of their existence through being a member here.
     
  2. Bad Thoughts

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    Thanks. I was too sleepy to look for it myself.

    Once you put tardigrades on the Enterprise, they can fulfill any function. We've had consciousnesses inhabit the main computer. We've had Barclay act as the computer. We've had humans fuse their consciousnesses with machines. We've had the Traveller, who could make the Enterprise travel extraordinary distances with thought. The article puts tardigrades in the position of being able to effect the operation of the warp engines. It's just a small jump to say they are effectively the engines.
     
  3. Midquest

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    This is the combination of factors that really appalls me. The smallest amount of research would demonstrate to Abdin or his proponents that their argument is rather improbable. When evidence is presented, they decry the evidence-bearers as trolls and shills. It's the kind of reaction that seems to me like a complete breakdown in communication.

    I wonder if it's ultimately a case of wanting to believe the narrative in which you have invested because to acknowledge that it might have been wrong, even to yourself, is too much for personal pride. There's at least some portion of the population who also seem to be holding onto this out of some fear that media trends and politics have left them behind, or are even part of a conspiracy--which, while I'm sure isn't representative of everyone supporting Abdin by ANY means, does crop up regularly in the YouTube comments.

    At any rate, I felt sorry for Abdin up to the point where he began adopting the language of the toxic fandom fringe. Maybe I still do feel sorry for him. It seems like a case or people goading and taking advantage of other people, and it's grossly un-Trek-like.
     
  4. Krandor

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    completely agree. I’m sure he got upset when he saw tardigrades on dsc and realized when his game released people would think he got the idea from there and had concerns about being sued. The finding sued isn’t happening now so he’s good.

    sometimes things are just coincidences like the two people who both created Dennis the menace comics separately.
     
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  5. DaveyNY

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    It's becoming Abdin's "Obsession" at this point.

    And we have seen what that can do to the most intelligent of people in Trek stories themselves.
     
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  6. fireproof78

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    A "White Wale" if you will?
     
  7. Cake

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    Lack of money? Talent? Not enough interest of potential players?

    I mean the game looks cheap. Like made in the 90s or earlier. There are so many game apps which cost nothing (though they like you to watch commercials and/or do in-game purchases) which look much better. Not to mention games which cost money to play and tend to be of an even higher quality.
     
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  8. Campe98

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    I guess its actually a genre that some players play. I don't. But I don't have a ton of time for video games these days. And the point is, he was an independent game maker. He might have been doing it for profit but he had a long way to go before we was going to get there. I don't know the specifics of the program he was involved in with Steam and if he might see any money out of it later on.
     
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  9. Tuskin38

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    There is a market for games with nostalgic graphics.
     
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  10. Maurice

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    Yeah. At this point the limitations imposed by the hardware have become style, much like mosaic tile.

    Roberta Williams—co-founder of Sierra On-Line, which made Space Quest, etc.—saw some animation I did in 1988 and said to me, "You want a job?"

    I stupidly did not say "yes".
     
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  11. Jedi_Master

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    There's plenty of money to be made these days peddling fake (or genuine) outrage.

    That is what is fueling Mr. Abdin and his supporters.
     
  12. Krandor

    Krandor Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    the money is the supported. Abdin I think based on some of his posts is insecure and I think he’s loving getting this much attention and doesn’t want it to end.
     
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  13. fireproof78

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    The market for nostalgia is quite strong at the moment.
     
  14. Krandor

    Krandor Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Yeah just look at chris roberts and star citizen.
     
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    Umm, she most certainly was.
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  19. Phoenix219

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    Retro games are great. There are a ton of fan games that are on par with anything official - SMBX, Am2R, some great Castlevania and Megaman fangames.... plus legit stuff like Bloodstained, Axiom Verge, Cave Story, Megaman 9 and 10, stuff like that....
     
  20. Therin of Andor

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    I can certainly relate to his situation. In 1980, I had found fandom (via "The Motion Picture"), joined the big local Trek club and spent several weeks writing my first ever fanfic. It won second prize in the club's Literary Competition of 1981 and ended up getting illustrated and published in their fanzine (in February 1982). In December 1982, after a longish hiatus, a Pocket Books' original Trek novel, "Black Fire" by Sonni Cooper, was released. Yes, the one where Spock becomes a renegade pirate.

    A former work colleague, who was back in the USA by then, bought me a copy in San Francisco and sent it by airmail, so I had it at least three months before any other local fans. (The bookshops here used to sea freight their books in those days.)

    To my bewilderment, the more-sedate, ship-based subplot of "Black Fire" paralleled my short story in at least 13 ways, right down to exploding bridge consoles in the "teaser" and a new, temporary First Officer of the USS Enterprise called Thorin. (My character was an Andorian, Therin; his fanfic debut.) As a newbie fan, so excited to own and read the latest licensed novel, it was crazy to find so many touchstones to my own story. I reasoned that there was no way that Sonni Cooper had access to my fanfic, nor would she need/want to. My story was still in longhand as she was typing her manuscript. Indeed, probably her book was already submitted and undergoing editing before I even started writing mine.

    I wrote it off as a series of coincidental, random choices. Or, both of us tapping into the Cosmic Consciousness. It was certainly proof to me that the unlikely can happen. I bet if the Internet was around in 1982, I'd have been more suspicious.
     
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