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Tardigrade lawsuit appealed

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Yes, because the reason Abdin's lawyers likely took the case on contingency wasn't because they were hoping for CBS to give them a quick pay out to make their nuisance suit go away. Let's create precedence for people to see that filing flimsy lawsuits pays, and encourage people to file them. "Pay the man" because "Discovery terribad", so who gives a shit that they didn't actually do anything wrong?

Totally agree. I think the lawyers expected the threat of lawsuit would be enough for CBS to settle quickly to make it go away. They miscalculated and now have a very very tough appeal on their hands.
 
The tardigrade Ripper wasn't the cause of the blue sparkling (the spores were), it wasn't capable of FTL (it was simply a navigator), and its color wasn't blue.

Quite frankly, that doesn't matter if the final result looks the same.

It doesn't matter if in one case the blue sparkles come from the Tardigrade itself, and in the other case from an obscure mushroom spores. It doesn't matter if in one case the Tardigrade itself is blue, and on the other case only constantly in blue light. If in one case the creature teleports by magic, on the other by peeudo-science.

The result is visually and functionally the same: A blue sparkling man-sized FTL-Tardigrade.

it wasn't capable of FTL (it was simply a navigator)
You do remember it zapping into hyperspace, all on it's own, with a blue lightning strike, once it was set free into space, right? That did happen on the show.

You've been told this, honestly, at least a hundred times now.

So what? That's an opinion that's wildly held. Otherwise this whole topic would have never taken off that much.

And holy hell, "you've been told multiple times your opinion is wrong" is quite literally the worst possible way to argue between two opposing opinions. Jesus Christ.

As had been made clear, multiple times - and this IS a fact, contrary to these crazy assertion - CBS did NOT steal the idea from Abdin. Period. That's clear.

That doesn't stop these two from being very similar either, though. That's the whole reason we have that many threads about that.

And that's why it's reasonable to repeat the facts (nothing was stolen). And not to only "allow" one opinion and trying to shut down any other opinions by threatening those who disagree with moderator actions.
 
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I wish Moderators, besides whenever else they do, could demote people who are cited for trolling, excessive arguing, etc...
 
The result is visually and functionally the same: A blue sparkling man-sized FTL-Tardigrade.

As had been made clear, multiple times - and this IS a fact, contrary to these crazy assertion - CBS did NOT steal the idea from Abdin. Period. That's clear.
Any similarity is completely moot if they didn't steal it...period. That's the point is whether or not CBS stole it. They didn't. They owe Abdin precisely zero in terms of money or attention.

Constantly saying "It looks the same" feels very much insisting that Abdin is right, despite all evidence to the contrary. It's no longer a discussion at this point. It's belaboring of a very strange point for seemingly no reason.​
 
I wish Moderators, [...] could demote people who are cited for [...] excessive arguing, etc...

What the fuck?
"I wish moderators would punish anyone that disagrees with me"? Yeah, that's a good idea...
I wish Moderators, besides whenever else they do, could demote people who are cited for trolling, excessive arguing, etc...
"Trolling" is already banned.
And that's starkly different from "excessive arguing".
 
Any similarity is completely moot if they didn't steal it...period. That's the point is whether or not CBS stole it. They didn't. They owe Abdin precisely zero in terms of money or attention.

Constantly saying "It looks the same" feels very much insisting that Abdin is right, despite all evidence to the contrary. It's no longer a discussion at this point. It's belaboring of a very strange point for seemingly no reason.​

right. They can be similar without being stolen.

one of the most interesting examples of that is two people in the same year both cane up with a comic called Dennis the meanance. Neither copied the other.

really weird coincidence? Yep. Stolen? Nope.
 
right. They can be similar without being stolen.

one of the most interesting examples of that is two people in the same year both cane up with a comic called Dennis the meanance. Neither copied the other.

really weird coincidence? Yep. Stolen? Nope.
Was the other Dennis the menace about a old person who regularly annoys a child?
 
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Quite frankly, that doesn't matter if the final result looks the same.

It doesn't matter if in one case the blue sparkles come from the Tardigrade itself, and in the other case from an obscure mushroom spores. It doesn't matter if in one case the Tardigrade itself is blue, and on the other case only constantly in blue light. If in one case the creature teleports by magic, on the other by peeudo-science.

The result is visually and functionally the same: A blue sparkling man-sized FTL-Tardigrade.

So what? That's an opinion that's wildly held. Otherwise this whole topic would have never taken off that much.

And holy hell, "you've been told multiple times your opinion is wrong" is quite literally the worst possible way to argue between two opposing opinions. Jesus Christ.

As had been made clear, multiple times - and this IS a fact, contrary to these crazy assertion - CBS did NOT steal the idea from Abdin. Period. That's clear.

That doesn't stop these two from being very similar either, though. That's the whole reason we have that many threads about that.

And that's why it's reasonable to repeat the facts (nothing was stolen). And not to only "allow" one opinion and trying to shut down any other opinions by threatening those who disagree with moderator actions.
This is my favorite part.

Repeating ...
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Sorry, got no dog in this hunt. Just can't help myself. :techman:
 
right. They can be similar without being stolen.

one of the most interesting examples of that is two people in the same year both cane up with a comic called Dennis the meanance. Neither copied the other.

really weird coincidence? Yep. Stolen? Nope.
That's what Rahul is saying.

He's said repeatedly in his posts that Abdin is wrong.

But it's still a weird coincidence.
 
That's what Rahul is saying.

He's said repeatedly in his posts that Abdin is wrong.

But it's still a weird coincidence.

agreed but subject tardigrades being able to survive in space was mentioned in cosmos it is not a stretch to think two people saw that same documentary and thought about space traveling tardigrades as a story idea.
 
Discovery's pretty awesome and money well spent, IMHO. But if you wanna send him some of your money I'm sure Abdin wouldn't mind!
Now there's a thought...
Instead of wasting your money on your own personal enjoyment, send it off to a guy you really don't know, so he can waste it on a frivolous lawsuit.
(or more likely putting gas in his and his friends vehicles)
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That's what Rahul is saying.

He's said repeatedly in his posts that Abdin is wrong.

But it's still a weird coincidence.

Thank you very much!

Crazy how that's somehow a controversial position to hold.

agreed but subject tardigrades being able to survive in space was mentioned in cosmos it is not a stretch to think two people saw that same documentary and thought about space traveling tardigrades as a story idea.
Yeah, there's definitely some "ripped from the headlines"- stuff going on here, too. Like how famous murder cases often end up inspiring lots of similar movies/shows/books.

But Ripper is honestly one of the most interesting additions DIS has made to the whole franchise (honestly more than another re-imagining of the enterprise, classic uniforms, or whatever...). I wish we would have seen even more of him. And then seeing something so unique being so similar in another work is just... weirdly fascinating. At least for me

Discovery's pretty awesome and money well spent, IMHO. But if you wanna send him some of your money I'm sure Abdin wouldn't mind!

Yeah, the show ain't half bad. I honestly just wished we would see more weird and imaginative creatures and concepts. Personally I'm more interested in that, than to see another re-imagining of familiar stories, props and aliens we have already seen another thousand times just slightly different before.
 
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