Sybok in Discovery

[Jinn]

Audiences are smart. They understand that the actors and the characters are NOT the same thing.

My English teacher once gave us the following assignment in an exam about the novel The Reluctant Fundamentalist (which is not an auto-biography):
"Analyse how the author describes his return to New York".

I had a good laugh

 

[Right on Q]

When Discovery first came out I loved the idea of a human raised on Vulcan, I thought it was a nice twist to the usual scifi cliche of an alien raised on Earth. But I was somewhat annoyed that Micheal was infarct Sarek and Amanda's adopted daughter. I wanted Discovery to try to be it's own thing and not rift on popular already established canon characters. Now that I've seen it's better then I feared it might have turned out. But now that they chose this path, they might as well go down the whole rabbit whole (Alice in Wonderland pun intended). Let's get an appearance from Sybok lets, meet his mother, lets see what's he's been up to in his youth. Has he joined the sect yet, is he thinking about it, or is he just trying to show dissatisfaction with the teaching of Surak?

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AH! Thank you for reminding me of the existence of this horrible movie!

 

[EDX]

Quite frankly I would love to see Sybok of Vulcan crop up on DISCOVERY at some point, for a number of reasons:-

-: Firstly, he's an interesting character somewhat handicapped by his association with one of the less popular films (we've seen plenty of Vulcans and part-Vulcans struggle with Vulcan Logic, but I'm not sure we've seen any other outright REJECT that discipline and head off in their own direction) and so may benefit from being seen somewhere outside THE FINAL FRONTIER (allowing us to see him more clearly).


-: Secondly, he makes an intriguing foil to Michael Burnham - a human who attempted to be the very best Vulcan she could be and still does her best to live up to (though not necessarily live and die by) her original training; Sybok's wholehearted rejection of Logic and embrace of Emotion (not to mention that Messiah Complex) makes an interesting contrast with Burnham's qualified acceptance.

Also, watching 'Vulcan Jesus' interact with "Science is my Religion" Burnham would almost certainly be excellent comedy value in its own right (right up until Sybok springs his little "Show me your pain" routine).


-: Thirdly, wouldn't it be just HILARIOUS (after all this inter-familial drama amongst Spock's nearest & dearest) to see Sybok show up and thoroughly disconcert Michael Burnham by being a thoroughly warm, utterly accepting & absolutely friendly Big Brother despite having never met her before in his life (Extra comic value if Sybok is being so very friendly and supportive while doing something deeply morally-questionable and/or unethical in furtherance of his monomaniac goal to find God and/or Heaven).

"Sister! I am so very pleased to meet you - how is our Brother Spock? Is Amanda doing well? Are you in good health yourself? Please, please tell me how my family have been!"

...

"Ah, I see information control remains The Ambassador's strong suit."


-: Fourthly, the spore drive (with its ability to go everywhere and its apparent link to everything) and that impressive download of date from The Sphere would make NCC-1031 an overwhelmingly tempting subject for Sybok (determinedly looking for God and apparently determined to make sure that entity has only the very Best chariot ready to roll out); while the ship is undoubtedly hush-hush, especially after the events of Season 2, Sybok's unashamed use & abuse of his psychic powers would almost certainly make it very hard to keep secrets from him, when he knows where to look for them.


-: Finally, the mental image of Mr Zachary Quinto playing Sybock occurred to me and I find it fascinating.

 

[Tenacity]

; Sybok's wholehearted rejection of Logic and embrace of Emotion

I don;t recall a "wholehearted rejection of logic" as being a aspect of what Sybok was.. Sybok sought to be part of something larger than himself, and was fooled by a being with strong mental abilities and a few flashy powers.

God doesn't need a starship, but this being did.

 

[Dukhat]

Quite frankly I would love to see Sybok of Vulcan crop up on DISCOVERY at some point, for a number of reasons

Since the premise for DSC has changed and the show will now take place in a different time period, the chances of seeing Sybok are almost non-existent.

 

[DarKush]

I think it was a missed opportunity to not include Sybok in Discovery Season 2. This season was tailor-made for him, with its discussions of faith/religion and science/logic. I mean he could've been a great link between Burnham and Spock. Plus they could've made him a bit shady, foreshadowing his role in Star Trek V.

Spock going to Sybok for help would've been neat. If nothing else I wish he had been mentioned.

 

[Dukhat]

I’ve gotten the impression over the years that most people in charge of Star Trek since TFF would prefer to forget he ever existed, as well as the entire movie he was featured in.

 

[DaveyNY]

I think it was a missed opportunity to not include Sybok in Discovery Season 2. This season was tailor-made for him, with its discussions of faith/religion and science/logic. I mean he could've been a great link between Burnham and Spock. Plus they could've made him a bit shady, foreshadowing his role in Star Trek V.

Spock going to Sybok for help would've been neat. If nothing else I wish he had been mentioned.

Would have been nice even if They had just mentioned him anyway.