Supernatural, season 11 *SPOILERS!*

[Kemaiku]

Well we know now that Lucifer bore the mark, they try to imply in S10 that he went unstable because of it's influence. If it turns a human into a demon with little effort, I have no idea what choas it could work on an angels brain.

Angels seem to be very programmable, made to obey, the Darkness working such a malliable one would certainly leave residual behavioural issues.

Michael may have been able to get through to him? who knows, maybe faced with the Darkness as an adversary, he'll change his mind.

And I'm not sure archangel is an upgrade, the 9 orders are meant to be absolute, not interchangable, but they already tossed that idea out, I don't know.

 

[tnpir4002]

And I'm not sure archangel is an upgrade, the 9 orders are meant to be absolute, not interchangable, but they already tossed that idea out, I don't know.

This is God we're talking about

They did toss out the idea, at the end of "Swan Song" (or sometime thereafter) when Cas went from being a regular angel to being a Seraph. No question he was much more powerful from the start of season 6 on.

No reason it couldn't happen again, right? Unless Raphael gets resurrected, there is a natural opening for a fourth archangel (also assuming the rumors are true and Gabriel is still alive).

If not, that means two of the four are alive...which would mean two openings for two archangels, openings which might conveniently get filled by...Sam and Dean? Well, I've heard worse ideas.

 

[RoJoHen]

The darkness reminds me a bit of the First Evil from Buffy for some reason.

I just got caught up since Season 10 was put on Netflix this past week, and that's exactly what I thought when Dean and Death were talking about The Darkness.

Haven't seen this new episode yet, but I'm intrigued by what's going to happen. If Death is to be believed, the only thing that managed to stop The Darkness the first time was God himself, so I fully expect him (Chuck?!) to return.

 

[auntiehill]

^Oh man, I sure hope so. I love Chuck.

 

[tnpir4002]

About tonight's episode I can say just one thing: THIS is what we should've gotten as the season opener!!! As anemic and boring as things were last week, this week we got an episode that squarely held my attention the entire time.

Pins and needles until next week!

 

[eyeresist]

EP 1 was good. Stuff was actually happening, and it looks like this season might have a sustained arc plot, unlike last season.

Some nitpicks:

Halfway through, Sam and Dean start bitching at each other, telling each other all about what happened last season, for what felt like 15 minutes.

The deputy totally forgot about being a cop once she got that baby. Hey, maybe call your station, or the state organisation if the local place is full of zombies? What about taking responsibility for that cop car you abandoned in the middle of the road? No, she is going to her mom's to play house.

The Darkness. She's basically just the Mother of All from season 6.

 

[auntiehill]

About tonight's episode I can say just one thing: THIS is what we should've gotten as the season opener!!! As anemic and boring as things were last week, this week we got an episode that squarely held my attention the entire time.

Pins and needles until next week!

Yes! Last night's episode was spot-on! Scary, creepy, and maybe even a glimmer of a message from "the cage." We even got to hear Death's theme song again (Yay!) but I was kinda hoping the woman would turn out to be Death in another suit, rather than just another reaper.

But things are really rocking and rolling here, so I hope it stays on this path.

 

[JD]

Yeah, that was a good one.
Crowley as "the priest" cracked me up.
I was surprised they pretty much resolved the whole infection thing, but I guess that was just a way to get The Darkness into baby.
I did have to wonder if this was originally written for the original Hannah actress, but decided on the gender swap when she wasn't available. It just seemed a little weird to me that there was no acknowledgement whatsoever of the fact that she was a guy now.
I'm disappointed to see the Deputy gone so soon, I liked her.

 

[Sto-Vo-Kory]

About tonight's episode I can say just one thing: THIS is what we should've gotten as the season opener!!! As anemic and boring as things were last week, this week we got an episode that squarely held my attention the entire time.

Pins and needles until next week!

I categorically agree with this entire post.



"Agent Pathetic-Has-Been-Rock-Star"

 

[Gryffindorian]

I'm glad Sam figured out how to cleanse the darkness plague from himself and others, and very quickly too. The little girl who bears the Mark of Cain - I thought she was going to be the savior in the story, but it looks like the opposite.

 

[tnpir4002]

I did have to wonder if this was originally written for the original Hannah actress, but decided on the gender swap when she wasn't available. It just seemed a little weird to me that there was no acknowledgement whatsoever of the fact that she was a guy now.

They actually did acknowledge it in season 10. In "Girls Girls Girls," Hannah chose to leave her vessel and return to heaven, and at the time it seemed like that would be the last we'd see or hear of her.

Then along came "Inside Man," when she returned to Earth for that "face to face" chat with Cas about refusing him entry into heaven. At that point, she took a new vessel, acknowledging that she'd sworn to never do so again.

 

[tnpir4002]

Apparently Bob Singer just posted what the Reddit folks are calling a major spoiler on Instagram: http://instagram.com/p/8j8okszYVo/

Personally I don't quite understand what I'm seeing...I know what I think it is and what I hope it is, and the comments seem to agree...anyway, click that link at your own risk!

 

[Sto-Vo-Kory]

Apparently Bob Singer just posted what the Reddit folks are calling a major spoiler on Instagram: http://instagram.com/p/8j8okszYVo/

Personally I don't quite understand what I'm seeing...I know what I think it is and what I hope it is, and the comments seem to agree...anyway, click that link at your own risk!

Thanks for the heads-up, tnpir4002! Yeah, that appears to be a huge development for the future of the series. Very cool.

 

[RoJoHen]

You know, during last season's "Fan Fiction" there was a random actor who showed up in the play, and they were like, "Who's that?"

"Oh, that's Adam, their other brother who's still trapped in the cage with Lucifer."

And then Chuck shows up at the end!

I was wondering if they were planning to pick back up on some of those old storylines.

 

[auntiehill]

Apparently Bob Singer just posted what the Reddit folks are calling a major spoiler on Instagram: http://instagram.com/p/8j8okszYVo/

Personally I don't quite understand what I'm seeing...I know what I think it is and what I hope it is, and the comments seem to agree...anyway, click that link at your own risk!

Thanks for the heads-up, tnpir4002! Yeah, that appears to be a huge development for the future of the series. Very cool.

Holy Fucking Crap! Yay, Bob! This makes me very, very happy.

 

[tnpir4002]

I've actually got a browser bookmark set up to help me catch things like this: http://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#newwindow=1&tbs=qdr:d&q=supernatural+season+11+spoilers

It's a Google search, looking for "supernatural season 11 spoilers" posted within the previous 24 hours. I've got it saved in my favorites bar so it's a quick thing to check when I have a second free.

Worth saving if you're as interested in sneak peeks like me!

 

[eyeresist]

I saw Ep 2.

I didn't say it before but I'll say it now: they are definitely trying to channel the Walking Dead. I'm betting Sam stays stuck in that scenario for the next few episodes.
Also, the music has noticably changed.

The mother was played by an actress who was in Dead Like Me - nice to see.

The psychic baby had me rolling my eyes.

Crowley! Yay! No wonder Dean doesn't kill him when he has an obvious opportunity - the show would be dreary without him.

Angel-on-angel action -- yawn. Except Cas going rogue and killing them was great. I hope he embraces that part of himself.

New Death is really boring.

Sam sure was lucky that no more than three monsters turned up at once...

Little girl reminds me of Lilith from season 3.

Plotwise they are still getting their ducks in a row for this season, but so far I'm not caring much about Sam or Dean's situation. The most interesting question is whether Crowley will finally go full villain. If the Cage busts open, he probably won't.

 

[Mr Light]

That woman was just a Reaper, not the new Death.

 

[tnpir4002]

That woman was just a Reaper, not the new Death.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Billie as the new Death--we've seen angels step up and take on the role of leader of heaven (and, in Metatron's case, the role of "the new God"), so I actually have a fairly easy time imagining a Reaper stepping in to fill the role of Death.

 

[Kemaiku]

Death is the first...anything after the Darkness. He seems to be entirely unique as an entity. The other Horsemen aren't demons, or monsters, they predate Eve and maybe God too.

They're forces of nature and universal absolutes all personifying an aspect of death or destruction, entropy and inevitability.

So I don't think they can be replaced, because I don't think they need to be. People still die and the Reapers must still do their job, Death likely had a lieutenant that we never saw, until now.

I doubt he's really dead, just somewhere putting himself back together and planning to revenge himself very terribly on the brothers. Maybe even unlocking Lucy's cage just as a final FU to them, not bothering to manifest on Earth again after that.