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Superman

ichab said:
Agreed. That shouldnt have happened until like Phase 2 or 3. Plus it’s just not believable that a guy who was the cause of so much destruction would all of a sudden be idolized by the population upon death. But the studio wanted a fast track to Justice League so....
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Because space invader General Zod had nothing to do with the destruction across Earth.

Superman is a hero because he saved the planet from disaster.

Watch The Flash (2023) to see what happens if Clark isn’t there. Zod wins and takes no prisoners.
 
The complication there is that it was Kal who unwittingly drew Zod (SWIDT?) to Earth in the first place. So in some sense he is responsible for both the threat to Earth (albeit inadvertently and unknowingly) and its salvation.
 
The Realist said:
The complication there is that it was Kal who unwittingly drew Zod (SWIDT?) to Earth in the first place. So in some sense he is responsible for both the threat to Earth (albeit inadvertently and unknowingly) and its salvation.
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Not to mention he made no attempt to draw Zod away from the city. His first priority should have been the safety of the millions of people who live there. This was already established in Superman 2.
 
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Dear lord. These people would pass out if they ever saw Deliverance or Pulp fiction.
 
The Realist said:
The complication there is that it was Kal who unwittingly drew Zod (SWIDT?) to Earth in the first place. So in some sense he is responsible for both the threat to Earth (albeit inadvertently and unknowingly) and its salvation.
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And if the Avengers didn’t possess Infinity Stones, Thanos would have never come to Earth. It was on Earth where he snapped half the universe out of existence.

And if mutants didn’t exist, the Sentinels would have never been created. They would not have pulled a Terminator 2 Judgement Day on the planet. Genociding both humans and mutants.

Clark was looking for answers about his identity. He didn’t create the situation or influence Zod to be the way he is. Zod was a killer and usurper from the day Clark was born.

Most villains don’t need their hero’s actions as an excuse to do mayhem. Spider-Man and Batman villains do just fine with no provocation.
ichab said:
Not to mention he made no attempt to draw Zod away from the city. His first priority should have been the safety of the millions of people who live there. This was already established in Superman 2.
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The fight did move into orbit briefly. Where Zod and Superman destroyed one of Bruce’s satellites (rude). But then Zod brought the battle back to Metropolis.

Cavilman was overwhelmed fighting an enraged Zod with nothing to lose.
 
ichab said:
Not to mention he made no attempt to draw Zod away from the city. His first priority should have been the safety of the millions of people who live there. This was already established in Superman 2.
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A Superman with far more training than Cavill’s.
M.A.C.O. said:
The fight did move into orbit briefly. Where Zod and Superman destroyed one of Bruce’s satellites (rude). But then Zod brought the battle back to Metropolis.

Cavilman was overwhelmed fighting an enraged Zod with nothing to lose.
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Especially as he’s essentially a rookie.
 
Saw this last night.

Don’t like Superman that much and don’t like DC movies.

Loved Superman.

It connected properly with me emotionally in a way a DC movie never has.

I was worried it would be overstuffed with characters but it wasn’t. Every character earned their place and had something to do.

I was worried Gunn Would make it too silly, but he kept himself on a leash and found the right balance in humour.

2 and a half hours passed so quickly. I think it’s a glorious ‘start’ to the DCU.
 
I bought Lois & Clark on Blu-ray. I'm bummed to see that the explosion in the pilot still has the interlacing burnt into it.
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And the version in the reconstructed opening credits is in much better shape than the one in the ep proper. The ep version still has a rectangle on the image where the compositing wasn't done correctly, which isn't present on the credits version.

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Overall though the show has a great uptick in quality. Obviously all the effects shots still look soft as hell and have weird color/contrast issues, but the regular footage looks fab.
 
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