Spoilers "Superman & Lois": The Fourth and Final Season
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I want proper Doomsday, created by Bertron, shown in proper format that even Darkseid's omega beams couldn't put a dent on his hide and how he's the embodiment of proper fear for Superman.
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Quite true.
I do not believe that was the writers' intent, either. No character or the scene overall suggests head trauma changed Doomsday.
Indeed. That should've been apparent to anyone just by...watching the character arc of Doomsday up to this point (prime Lois' face to face encounter being the turning point) and the in-your-face signs (memory flashes) in the series finale. There was no need for a drawn out explanation as if the series transformed into an extended episode of Dr. Phil Sits Down with The Monster.
But that's just the problem. Doomsday is just brute force. The idea that Superman would be afraid of something that can only punch him is an affront to his character. Superman isn't just a pile of muscle, he's got a genius intellect and a creative approach to problem-solving. A literally mindless punching machine shouldn't pose a significant threat to him at all. He should be able to think of a creative way to neutralize the threat, rather than just trying to punch back. Doomsday is just so, so much less than Superman that it was an insult to pass him off as Superman's ultimate nemesis.
The one thing about Doomsday that would scare Superman is that Doomsday would relentlessly destroy any civilians who got in his way. That's what Superman fears -- not his own death, but his failure to protect others. But it undermines that when Doomsday is monomaniacally targeting Superman himself and everyone else is just collateral damage.
Doomsday passed off as Superman's ultimate nemesis is an insult to Superman himself - oh, I concur with that. I mean, Supes already has a nemesis, and it's this guy named Lex Luthor. Doomsday is not Bane - and with that, I mean his Comic-Book-Counterpart, the one, who is brawn and brain, the one, who broke Bruces back. Here, I can get, why people didn't like the Bane in B&R, by the way. That Bane was nothing more than DCs Version of the Hulk, working with Poison Ivy.
But Doomsday is more of a monothematical creature - not even a real villain, but just a being, that gets pleasure out of killing and destroying. The only reason why Doomsday is seen as Supes ultimate villain, is because it's the beast, that killed Superman off. And if one would just want to see "Doomsday done right", then I suggest, just to film "The Death of Superman" - it has been done as cartoon, now do the real-life-version of exactly that. Don't put it at the End of BVS, just film "The Death of Superman" - it's a no-brainer to create. You don't even need people to draw the storyboard, 'cause it's all in the comics.
If Doomsday wouldn't have killed of Superman in the comics, no one would even talk about this character. He was a plot-device - a bird-smashing, houses-punching, Superman-killing plot device.
Exactly. If they wanted to do a big-event "Death of Superman" story, they could've used some imagination to come up with a less simplistic and boring villain. Or, better yet, they could've had Luthor or Darkseid or Brainiac be the one to do it.
And if I read this correctly, further seasons would've brought other villains, e.g. Brainiac - but the clowns at CW decided to pull the plug.
I never said anything different, @Mudd. I just pointed out, that Doomsday is not that fascinating of a character, because he would've had depth, he's just the one dude, who literally killed Superman. That's all. That's what he's famous for.
There are some in the geekosphere for whom nitpicking is their primary way to process entertainment. It can be annoying, but it's also kind of sad. There's so much more to a story -- character, emotion, theme -- than pointing out the writers' "mistakes." I fear that some folks never experience the pleasure of just surrendering to a narrative and letting it move them.
(And no, that's not the same as being uncritical. But there's critical and then there's hypercritical, at the expense of allowing a story to touch you in ways beyond the negatively analytical.)
I would submit that being hypercritical of other people is worse than being hypercritical of a show. As the audience, we're entitled to judge the fiction presented for our approval. We are not entitled to sit in judgment of how other people choose to discuss or evaluate their entertainment.
And he should squish a bird.
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IIRC, this is not the first time Bitsie has gone out of her way to pay homage to previous versions of Lois. Gotta love her.
Wasn't Mirror Lois deliberately designed to look like Kidder?
Isn't the CW itself being terminated?
Well, this was gratifyingly fast, especially after last season's unaccountable delay: Blu-ray sets for season four and the complete series are already showing up on several etailers' sites, with a release date of 4/1/25. (Insert April Fool's Day joke here.)
Since the final season completed filming last year and was originally set to air this last summer, I'm not that surprised that the studio might have been sitting on the Blu-ray sets for a while.
I wonder if it's because instead of being released in the lead up to the next season, this time they're releasing it in the lead up to the Superman movie.
Either way, don't care just glad I don't have to have an embolism by waiting a year only to read "DVD only" on it.
I dunno, but I did like that at least one of her outfits was clearly modeled on Zod's costume. (I'd say Ursa, but hers had big split sleeves.
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I'll see that image, and raise you this one:
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