Spoilers "Superman & Lois": The Fourth and Final Season

[Christopher]

Very much the first, and progressively less so the further down the list you go. I personally prefer Superman stories to stick with him and his family of characters, and not bring in other DC players.

On the whole, sure, but I'm talking about the kind of guest appearance that was done just a couple of times a season. Which is another reason I think an episodic format would've been preferable to the "one story per season" serialization.

Have to agree with this. I dislike the modern idea that it's inherently artful to leach all the color and light from a show/movie. I'm hoping to God James Gunn lets his new Superman suit look as vivid and colorful on screen as it does in location photos.

I do think Superman's costume here is better than the Supergirl one with those weird shoulder straps, but I miss the brighter colors there.

Likely this. Probably everything in that trailer is from the first episode -- or maybe the first two, since they're showing those back-to-back as a "two-hour premiere."

I hope so, but that's still 20% of the season, plus, again, they already did a "Death of Superman" mini-arc in season 2, so I don't see the point of rehashing it.

No, well, I do see one obvious point for it, which is to give Jordan an arc of coming into his own as Superboy when his dad's not there. But it still feels like clumsy plotting to go such a similar route twice.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

I was watching a YouTube Podcast where Christine Larkin and Staci Keanan are reviewing every episode of their 90s series 'Step By Step'.
They're working their way through the first season and they got to an episode where the parents went out of town for the weekend and the kids threw a party at the house.
Who should show up as one of J.T.'s high school friends? An uncredited Michael Cudlitz. I had to laugh as he was twenty eight at the time playing a high schooler.

 

[The Realist]

Posting this for those who may want to see it. I didn't watch it, three minutes of footage is too much for me. I'd rather see it in its proper context when the show airs.

 

[Tosk]

I caved and watched.

Some of the animation makes them look quite action figure-y.

 

[The Realist]

Well, they did suffer budget cuts this year from the asshole new guard at The CW. Drastically reduced regular cast, reduced episode count -- it would have been more surprising if the VFX didn't take a hit, too.

 

[The Realist]

New key art "poster" from The CW:

I like it! Interesting choice to go with something that actually looks like art instead of the usual photo manip. A little reminiscent of the heyday of movie poster illustrators like Bob Peak.

 

[thribs]

Very Snyder like that fight. Looks nice.
When I heard about them reducing the cast for season 4 I didn't expect Superman himself to be cut.

 

[Tosk]

Well, they did suffer budget cuts this year from the asshole new guard at The CW. Drastically reduced regular cast, reduced episode count -- it would have been more surprising if the VFX didn't take a hit, too.

It's not really any worse than the stuff we've had before on the show. But it wasn't a major gripe, just an observation

New key art "poster" from The CW:

I like it! Interesting choice to go with something that actually looks like art instead of the usual photo manip. A little reminiscent of the heyday of movie poster illustrators like Bob Peak.

Weird to see Superman so clean-shaven.

 

[The Realist]

Heads up! The schedule for the final season has changed. The two-hour season premiere will now arrive ten days earlier, on Monday, October 7, at 8:00 Eastern, and the show will then continue at 8 on Mondays.

https://comicbook.com/dc/news/superman-lois-final-season-will-air-on-new-night-mondays-the-cw/

 

[The Realist]

I recently rewatched the third season on Blu-ray, and it was, if anything, even better than I remembered. It'll be bittersweet this season knowing each new episode is ticking down to the end, but I'm expecting this amazing series to go out on a high. Can't wait to start the final stretch.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

https://ew.com/superman-and-lois-fi...aABt8ywv_qLvThL3yw_aem_0SkGo4uP0Rvn-ToMJaQY4w

It sounds like Season Four was always going to be the 'Death of Superman', but the producers expected to get a fifth season and had to scramble to tie up any loose ends and resolve the storyline

 

[The Realist]

I've rewatched the new trailer several times. I'm glad to see Cudlitz shaves off the furshlugginer beard.

 

[Tosk]

It feels* increasingly rare these days for a cancelled show to get time to wrap things up. So I plan to mentally celebrate that after each ep this season. I love this show warts and all, so I hope they go out at least as good as they've been so far.

*It may or may not be literally true, which is why I said feels.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

It feels* increasingly rare these days for a cancelled show to get time to wrap things up.

True; Evil ended its run, but the producers were fortunate enough to get an additional four episodes to wrap things up, which--as one can imagine, did not satisfy some viewers, feeling the big plots were rushed to a finish line. In the case of Superman and Lois, if the original intent was to stretch Luthor across two or more seasons (he is, after all, Lex Luthor), his arc may feel like one of those rushed plots. Then, there's the performers who were cut as regulars, and the concern that they will not given a satisfactory send-off with the few hours left. I imagine that in one way or another, every loose end will not be tied up by the time of the series finale.

 

[Anwar]

It feels* increasingly rare these days for a cancelled show to get time to wrap things up. So I plan to mentally celebrate that after each ep this season. I love this show warts and all, so I hope they go out at least as good as they've been so far.

*It may or may not be literally true, which is why I said feels.

I remember when "Falling Skies" did the opposite: They apparently knew they only had 1 season left to wrap things up but instead so much of the last season was padding and filler.

Of course, I also heard that they didn't know the last season would truly be the last and had already written most of it when the cancel order came in so that's why it felt so full of padding and THEN wrapping it all up uber-fast.

 

[Tosk]

I remember when "Falling Skies" did the opposite: They apparently knew they only had 1 season left to wrap things up but instead so much of the last season was padding and filler.

Highlander also pissed away most of the final season with endless backdoor pilot attempts, basically screentesting women for the spinoff...only to just give it to recurring character Amanda anyway.

 

[Samurai8472]

The series finale will do something no prior Superman film or show has done before

Matt’s Inside Line: Scoop on Superman, Agatha, Matlock, FBI: International, NCIS, Found, Chicago Fire and More!

TVLine CCO Matt Webb Mitovich has answers to YOUR questions about 'Agatha All Along,' 'Matlock' and a dozen other TV shows!

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-Regeneration Doctor Who style?

Clark- New teeth. That's weird

-Energy Superman! Let's just go wild!

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

The series finale will do something no prior Superman film or show has done before

Matt’s Inside Line: Scoop on Superman, Agatha, Matlock, FBI: International, NCIS, Found, Chicago Fire and More!

TVLine CCO Matt Webb Mitovich has answers to YOUR questions about 'Agatha All Along,' 'Matlock' and a dozen other TV shows!

tvline.com

-Regeneration Doctor Who style?

Clark- New teeth. That's weird

-Energy Superman! Let's just go wild!

...or the showrunners could have gone to crazytown by having any of the non-powered Kents placed in a crystal chamber and gain Kryptonian powers, only to suffer from the merging--the physical danger sort of like Donna during the fourth series of Doctor Who.

Since the Arrowverse/Not-Arroverse borrows various things from the DCEU, your regeneration idea happens, only its a change of the dimension-altering variety as seen in The Flash, where Superman returns, appearing as someone entirely different...

 

[Samurai8472]

Or they actually do it……and permanently kill Lex Luthor

 

[Tosk]

"Permanently" in a show that's ending doesn't seem so shocking.
Plus, Lex on Smallville died. He never came back to life, only got cloned. Semantics!