Spoilers "Superman & Lois" Season 2

[theenglish]

Had the thought that Anderson was taking orders from Ally and not Hardcastle when he took out Superman.

I had the same thought. As others have mentioned earlier in the thread, I am also expecting Ally to be someone we know from comics.

I'm not happy with how the athletes on X steroids is playing out--but the fact that Jonathan is taking the drug is understandable considering how things have played out so far.

 

[Jayson1]

I think Anderson's problem isn't that he is a bad guy working for the baddie. I think he is someone who doesn't know how to work with Superman. He is kind of like John Walker as the new Captain America on that show. He is a good solider but he is out of his league when dealing with superhero stuff. Walker on that show took the super solider serum where as Anderson captured Superman in hopes he can control him and use that as a means of helping him defeat Bizzaro Superman.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

^ Anderson did not trust SM even before Bizarro hit the scene, and his use of the teenagers as part of his own group of super soldiers (going on for many months) proves he is corrupt and not misguided (about duty) or dealing with an inferiority complex like Walker on The Falcon and the winter Soldier.

 

[JD]

Yeah, he had already created his Supermen of America because he didn't trust that he could control Superman, and wanted super powered soldiers he could control, before Bizarro showed up.

Had the thought that Anderson was taking orders from Ally and not Hardcastle when he took out Superman.

I could definitely see them going there.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I had the same thought. As others have mentioned earlier in the thread, I am also expecting Ally to be someone we know from comics.

I'm not happy with how the athletes on X steroids is playing out--but the fact that Jonathan is taking the drug is understandable considering how things have played out so far.

Smallville Clark took Kryptonite, to downpower himself enough to play football with humans.

What a loser.

 

[thribs]

Smallville Clark took Kryptonite, to downpower himself enough to play football with humans.

What a loser.

He tried to. He never actually did on the field

 

[Jayson1]

^ Anderson did not trust SM even before Bizarro hit the scene, and his use of the teenagers as part of his own group of super soldiers (going on for many months) proves he is corrupt and not misguided (about duty) or dealing with an inferiority complex like Walker on The Falcon and the winter Soldier.

The super solider program was being planned even before he took command. I am sure to him he is simply looking at them as a resource. Also it's true he didn't trust Superman at first but he also never encountered Superman before. They have no prior working relationship. From his perspective Superman is just this strong powerful being he sees in the news, who saves people and does who knows what when he isn't doing that.

Sort of a Lex Luthor motive but without the megalomania. Some people in the world are just going to be fearful and skeptical of someone like Superman because of his power, no matter how many good deeds he does. Especially when Superman's own brother is sitting in prison cell for what he tried to do last year in Smallville.

 

[Anwar]

It's a little amusing how even the description for the episodes keep Anderson's rank wrong. It keeps calling him "Lieutenant" when he's actually a Lieutenant General.

This is right up there with how the original Stargate movie had them call a Lt Colonel a "Lieutenant" too.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Superman and Lois
Season 2 - Episode 7 - "Anti-Hero"

Clark/SM/Bizarro/Anderson: Ever hopeful...or naive, SM begs Anderson to investigate all things Ally. Anderson accuses SM of hiding Bizarro, so in order to force SM to divulge all he knows, Anderson has Tal Roh tortured. Giving in, SM gives Anderson coordinates to a location long abandoned by Bizarro--his soldiers only finding a discarded costume. Enraged, Anderson sends his men into the red sun chamber but have the tables turned on them, with the Kryptonians breaking out of the complex, heading to Roh's desert fortress....

Under water with Hardcastle, Anderson decides to use X-K in order to kill Tal Roh, Bizarro and apprehend SM...

At the fortress, Bizarro explains that on his world, that version of Tal Rho was close to him...until his wife attempted to kill him, a detail Roh finds revealing and shocking (since he does not have a wife).

Without much warning, Anderson finds the group, using his drug-fueled powers to attack SM. during the fight, Roh jumps in the path of Kryptonite bullets meant for SM, while their mother releases Bizarro to fight Anderson. SM is tasked with dissolving the Kryptonite bullets in Roh's chest; he's successful but has to fly him into space for direct exposure to the sun's energy if Roh is to recover.

Returning to earth to assist Bizarro, he finds the alien dead--the result of being placed in a lethal chokehold. Anderson escapes, with a free SM promising to find him.

Sam--feeling responsible for Anderson (since he recommended him for the job) volunteers to lead the manhunt for Anderson....

Elsewhere, Anderson locates Ally, and offers the pendant, which Ally says is the way to "change the worlds"...

Jordan / Jonathan: Candace pushes more X-K on Jonathan, just as the police conduct a drug raid at the school. Candace--without missing a beat--thinks of herself (and what she would face if caught), wanting Jonanthan to take the drugs. Jonanthan assumes his status as s "good kid" would give him some protection if caught, but his reasoning / gamble was wrong in every way, with the police arresting him for possession of X-K. He's released (waiting for the school's decision about his fate), but Lois is beyond angry once she learns Jonanthan was taking X-K instead of dealing it. Frustrated, she speaks to Lana about her problems--and not even being aware of the X-K problem, or how to deal with Jonathan. Lana suggests its enough for a parent to be there for the kids when no one else will...

Lois questions Jonathan again, mentioning that he will be expelled if he refuses to name the source of the X-K. Clark also has a few choice words with Jonahan, pretty much calling him a shame to himself and the family (by being a bad representative through his recent actions), which leaves Jonathan in tears.

Jordan/Sarah: Sarah's feeling lost in the wake of Kyle' departure and mentions how she cannot talk to Jordan about her issues. Instead of stepping up and trying to relate to Sarah about the same problems they're going through, Lana effectively pushes Sarah toward some other person she feels she can relate to--the girl from camp. So much for being there for her child (the advice she offered to Lois).

Lana/Kyle/Sarah: Lana takes her Dean problems to Lois, complaining about her opponent running ads as the "family values" candidate, but later confronts Dean (in front of townspeople) about the hypocrisy of selling himself as the aforementioned "family values" guy while attacking another going through a terrible personal problem (SEE NOTES).

Ultimately, the person Sarah needed to speak to is her father...and she finally finds him, sans the anger and disappointment expressed in the previous episode.

NOTES:

Oh well, Tal-Roh's back at the DOD cell. Hopefully, the showrunners keep him there, or send him to the Bizarro world to have a showdown with Ally, and decide to settle there...

Similar to Supergirl's completely unrealistic depiction of journalism, this series leaned in that Saturday morning TV-level of fantasy with Lana's speech (against Dean) instantly making some of the townsfolk turn away from Dean, when a moment earlier, none protested his reference to Lana's issues to any degree. The point being that voters are not so turned off by character assassination in politics.

The series returns on 3/22/22, with Natalie having difficulties at the controls of her ship....

GRADE: B-.

 

[Aragorn]

Thought the show was going to go for a double death to double down on the stakes and emotions.

 

[The Realist]

Things that make me go, "Hmmmm":

• We learn that Bizarro-Tal's wife tried to kill Bizarro
• Last week, Bizarro-Lana tried to kill Bizarro
• Our Tal and Lana know each other, and Tal seemed interested in her (though certainly Lana would not reciprocate at this point)
• Tal currently appears to be embarking on a redemption arc
• Lana is currently separated from her husband

In other news, I'm surprised and kinda disappointed they killed off Bizarro. The look, concept, and portrayal were all great, and especially after that awesome opening montage to last week's episode, I was looking forward to learning more about him. Maybe there's a method to the showrunners' madness -- we shall see.

ETA: Somebody on another site pointed out that Bizarro-Lana wears the House of Rho crest, which probably clinches the fact that she was Bizarro-Tal’s wife.

 

[Ovation]

I thought perhaps his wife was Ally. But the Lana hypothesis makes more sense.

 

[Christopher]

I am so disappointed that Anderson has turned out to be such a tediously one-note bad guy instead of someone with dimensions. Now they escalate him still further to the point of actual supervillainy. I find this arc boring. I hope that Bizarro isn't really dead, just dormant. Heck, who knows how death works in a backward universe?

At least the Jonathan-using-drugs plot is hopefully over. At least the part where he's actually using. I suspect his girlfriend will come clean about dealing and get him off the hook.

Isn't it a bit hypocritical of Clark to lecture Jon about not "misrepresenting" himself? Isn't that what Clark does every day? And what Jordan has to do now that he has powers?

Whatever happened to Irons and Natalie? I hope they aren't gone for good.

I find myself wishing they'd dyed Emmanuelle Chriqui's hair red for this series, not out of purism, but just so Lois and Lana would have more visual contrast between them.

 

[Jayson1]

I am also disappointed in Anderson but we do got to consider that when he approached Ally he is under the influence of alien drugs so he might not be all right in the head at this point. It's possible that as soon as it wears off the reality of what he has done will begin to sink in and he will start to get some regrets when he realizes he has just tossed away his career and life and for what in the end. I think at some point we will see the man that made General Lane want to recommend him for the job.

 

[thribs]

Are they implying that Lana will end up with Clark’s brother? Won’t that make Sarah and Jordan step cousins?

 

[Jayson1]

Are they implying that Lana will end up with Clark’s brother? Won’t that make Sarah and Jordan step cousins?

Thankfully Smallville is in Kansas so a little cousin lovin should be fine.

 

[The Habs Fan]

I’m annoyed that Anderson being an idiot is what is driving the season forward. They could have done this a lot better.

However, I thought the Jonathan plot this episode was very well done. I think it’s very realistic that he would take the fall for the popular girl who is giving him attention. Teenagers aren’t always using their brains. I wonder if they are setting up a depression storyline up for Jonathan, similar to what happened with Sarah in the past.

 

[Aragorn]

They could've done a lot more with Anderson while still taking him down the same path. Instead, he's just a toddler throwing a tantrum.

 

[Caretaker]

They could've done a lot more with Anderson while still taking him down the same path. Instead, he's just a toddler throwing a tantrum.

What they probably should have done was established Anderson as having been microdosing on X-K the whole time. Use that as messing with his mind leading to his questionable decision making. That would make it a little less mustache-twirling.

 

[Jayson1]

I’m annoyed that Anderson being an idiot is what is driving the season forward. They could have done this a lot better.

However, I thought the Jonathan plot this episode was very well done. I think it’s very realistic that he would take the fall for the popular girl who is giving him attention. Teenagers aren’t always using their brains. I wonder if they are setting up a depression storyline up for Jonathan, similar to what happened with Sarah in the past.

Well their is also the issue of the fact that if someone brings you drugs, which you have already decided you want to take that it is kind of iffy to throw someone under the buss just because you changed your mind but didn't tell her thus she brought you some more to school. He is doing the honorable thing in not ratting her out.