Spoilers "Superman & Lois" Season 2
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That’s the story you would tell in a Superman Beyond type show. Hundreds of years have gone past and he is just getting more and more powerful. Everyone he knew have long since gone and those two things make him lose his touch in humanity. The story could revolve on him getting it back.
Oh right, I forgot about the non-Kara Zor-El Supergirls back when they wouldn't allow other Kryptonian survivors besides Kal-El.
Very interesting choice of director. Wasn’t even aware she was in that field now. She did a good job. That opening scene was nicely done.
Funny seeing a super powered Lana again. I wonder what her story is.
I hope Superman learns from this. Never work with the American military. They’re always dicks.
Lana never has the best of luck with marriages. At least in this one the husband didn’t fake a pregnancy.
Funny seeing a super powered Lana again. I wonder what her story is.
I hope Superman learns from this. Never work with the American military. They’re always dicks.
Lana never has the best of luck with marriages. At least in this one the husband didn’t fake a pregnancy.
Superman and Lois
Season 2 - Episode 6 - "Tried and True"
Clark/SM/Bizarro: The episode opens with Bizarro's flashback to his own world, where he enters a military facility bathed in red sun energy, but is attacked soldiers, and a metahuman-Lana, before finding that world's version of Ally, taking her pendant, then killing her...
Back in the fortress, he informs SM that among other things, on his world, he's not as revered as SM is on earth, but insists SM must destroy the pendant before Ally merges with it and becomes powerful enough to "send us all into oblivion."
Lois / Lucy: Sam has to act as referee as Lois and Lucy fire accusations at one another over Ally. Sam just wants his family back. Lucy begins to bond with her nephews over football, and it seems her relationship is on the mend with Lois until they explode over Ally and her corrupt practices again, leading Lucy to leave her sister at the football game. Sam blames himself for not being attentive to Lucy when she was troubled, but for once, Lois does nor blame him for issues from the past.
Anderson: Hardcastle blames Anderson for the deaths of the meta-teens, failing to catch Bizarro and essentially pushing SM away, or face the consequences (being broken down in his position). At the funeral of the meta-kids, Anderson is slapped by one of the mothers, blaming him for the teen's death. Anderson is still angry with SM, but sort of orders him to work to find Bizarro, but SM reveals he's had the alien in his custody--and asks for the pendant.
Still disturbed that SM does not trust him (gee...I wonder why?), he requests a certain authorization from Hardcastle, which turns out to be a trap luring SM to the DOD, subject him to red sun energy, stating that the pendant is not the threat...SM is.
SM fights off Anderson's soldiers (mirroring Bizarro's fight from the flashback) but is shot by Anderson's Kryptonite gun. and moves in for a point-blank shot.
Anderson charges SM with treason and locks him in the same red-sun prison with Tal-Roh (SEE NOTES).
Jordan / Jonathan: Jonathan still hiding his drug use from Jordan. While it's sort of sweet that Jordan likes the idea of his brother having powers, Jonathan still has his hairs up about his powers--as if he'd become possessive about it.
Jordan learns many kids have used the "Yellow Mist" drug, administered with an inhaler--putting two and two together about Jonathan's newfound power. Facing off with Jonanthan does not go well for Jordan, who is slammed into the lockers and a second away from being punched by Jonathan, which observed by Sam. The emotionally hurt Jordan runs off...
Back at the farm, Jonathan apologizes to Jordan, adding the benefits of the drug made his victories feel fake...
Jordan/Sarah: Sarah had a front seat to the cost of adultery (in one sense), one can hope this does not make her distrust her own relationship with Jordan (out of fear he has the potential to act like Kyle).
Lana/Kyle/Sarah: With Kyle on the outs with his family, Lana leans on Sarah, but the soap opera side of this series might have Lana think about her old friend in the romantic sense, especially in the wake of her conversation with Kyle, who professed his love to an increasingly hurt Lana. Speaking to Clark, he says if Lois cheated on him, he'd have to trust her (in response to Lana's hypothetical) if he chose to stay with her (SEE NOTES).
Lana confronts Tanya, to learn the true nature of the affair...
Later, Lana questions Kyle, asking if he would have broken off the affair if his family had not been in trouble at the time. Kyle's reply does not matter, because Lana asks Kyle to move out, as she does not feel the way she did in the past, nor can they still feed off of the memories & feelings from their teenage years.
NOTES:
Clark can say he would trust Lois in order to take her back after a hypothetical act of adultery, but realistically, anyone who was the victim of infidelity would always lack a certain amount of trust.
Still waiting for the big reveal with Irons. Perhaps that's being saved for the mid-season finale.
I'm already tired of the Tal-Roh sub-plot; it was never interesting, and I fear SM--being the dumb kind of bleeding heart--will have a heart-to-heart with Tal-Rho and plot to escape the DOD, or somehow convince Bizarro to break them out, leading to the DOD publicly charging SM with being an enemy of the state.
That, or Irons will be brainwashed into believing that his 1st season concern that SM will turn "evil" like the one from his world--has finally come to pass.
Unfortunately for this series, its two big arcs of each season are suffering from a sameness with alternate Supermen / planets / world-ending events tied to the alternate planets (all conveniently ending up in Smallville where the action just happened) ...a direct threat to Superman, etc. Remove the soaper aspects and its moving into the dreaded Weisinger territory or rinse and repeat plotting of "Which new Superman is coming to town this week?"
GRADE: B-.
Season 2 - Episode 6 - "Tried and True"
Clark/SM/Bizarro: The episode opens with Bizarro's flashback to his own world, where he enters a military facility bathed in red sun energy, but is attacked soldiers, and a metahuman-Lana, before finding that world's version of Ally, taking her pendant, then killing her...
Back in the fortress, he informs SM that among other things, on his world, he's not as revered as SM is on earth, but insists SM must destroy the pendant before Ally merges with it and becomes powerful enough to "send us all into oblivion."
Lois / Lucy: Sam has to act as referee as Lois and Lucy fire accusations at one another over Ally. Sam just wants his family back. Lucy begins to bond with her nephews over football, and it seems her relationship is on the mend with Lois until they explode over Ally and her corrupt practices again, leading Lucy to leave her sister at the football game. Sam blames himself for not being attentive to Lucy when she was troubled, but for once, Lois does nor blame him for issues from the past.
Anderson: Hardcastle blames Anderson for the deaths of the meta-teens, failing to catch Bizarro and essentially pushing SM away, or face the consequences (being broken down in his position). At the funeral of the meta-kids, Anderson is slapped by one of the mothers, blaming him for the teen's death. Anderson is still angry with SM, but sort of orders him to work to find Bizarro, but SM reveals he's had the alien in his custody--and asks for the pendant.
Still disturbed that SM does not trust him (gee...I wonder why?), he requests a certain authorization from Hardcastle, which turns out to be a trap luring SM to the DOD, subject him to red sun energy, stating that the pendant is not the threat...SM is.
SM fights off Anderson's soldiers (mirroring Bizarro's fight from the flashback) but is shot by Anderson's Kryptonite gun. and moves in for a point-blank shot.
Anderson charges SM with treason and locks him in the same red-sun prison with Tal-Roh (SEE NOTES).
Jordan / Jonathan: Jonathan still hiding his drug use from Jordan. While it's sort of sweet that Jordan likes the idea of his brother having powers, Jonathan still has his hairs up about his powers--as if he'd become possessive about it.
Jordan learns many kids have used the "Yellow Mist" drug, administered with an inhaler--putting two and two together about Jonathan's newfound power. Facing off with Jonanthan does not go well for Jordan, who is slammed into the lockers and a second away from being punched by Jonathan, which observed by Sam. The emotionally hurt Jordan runs off...
Back at the farm, Jonathan apologizes to Jordan, adding the benefits of the drug made his victories feel fake...
Jordan/Sarah: Sarah had a front seat to the cost of adultery (in one sense), one can hope this does not make her distrust her own relationship with Jordan (out of fear he has the potential to act like Kyle).
Lana/Kyle/Sarah: With Kyle on the outs with his family, Lana leans on Sarah, but the soap opera side of this series might have Lana think about her old friend in the romantic sense, especially in the wake of her conversation with Kyle, who professed his love to an increasingly hurt Lana. Speaking to Clark, he says if Lois cheated on him, he'd have to trust her (in response to Lana's hypothetical) if he chose to stay with her (SEE NOTES).
Lana confronts Tanya, to learn the true nature of the affair...
Later, Lana questions Kyle, asking if he would have broken off the affair if his family had not been in trouble at the time. Kyle's reply does not matter, because Lana asks Kyle to move out, as she does not feel the way she did in the past, nor can they still feed off of the memories & feelings from their teenage years.
NOTES:
Clark can say he would trust Lois in order to take her back after a hypothetical act of adultery, but realistically, anyone who was the victim of infidelity would always lack a certain amount of trust.
Still waiting for the big reveal with Irons. Perhaps that's being saved for the mid-season finale.
I'm already tired of the Tal-Roh sub-plot; it was never interesting, and I fear SM--being the dumb kind of bleeding heart--will have a heart-to-heart with Tal-Rho and plot to escape the DOD, or somehow convince Bizarro to break them out, leading to the DOD publicly charging SM with being an enemy of the state.
That, or Irons will be brainwashed into believing that his 1st season concern that SM will turn "evil" like the one from his world--has finally come to pass.
Unfortunately for this series, its two big arcs of each season are suffering from a sameness with alternate Supermen / planets / world-ending events tied to the alternate planets (all conveniently ending up in Smallville where the action just happened) ...a direct threat to Superman, etc. Remove the soaper aspects and its moving into the dreaded Weisinger territory or rinse and repeat plotting of "Which new Superman is coming to town this week?"
GRADE: B-.
Really good episode. That teaser was terrific.
A couple of questions that occur: Why does Bizarro look the way he does? The other people we saw in his world looked normal. Did something happen to him? Or do Kryptonians simply not look like humans in his universe?
And since he seems to have no compunction about killing for his cause, why didn't he kill his Ally when he had the chance, instead of just taking her pendant?
Also: fucking Anderson, man.
A couple of questions that occur: Why does Bizarro look the way he does? The other people we saw in his world looked normal. Did something happen to him? Or do Kryptonians simply not look like humans in his universe?
And since he seems to have no compunction about killing for his cause, why didn't he kill his Ally when he had the chance, instead of just taking her pendant?
Also: fucking Anderson, man.
For me, the high point here is that it was directed by Amy Jo Johnson, of whom I've been a big fan ever since her Power Rangers days. I always found her impressively talented as an actress and gymnast as well as an incredible beauty, and it seems she's just as talented at directing. There were some really nice directorial touches and shot compositions here.
I'm still not enjoying this season's storylines, though. The Bizarro world makes little sense, as well as the plot feeling too much like a rehash of season 1. It's hard to buy this random cult-leader character as the season's existential threat; I'm wondering if "Ally Alston" will turn out to be an alias for some character we know (Granny Goodness, maybe?). And I'm really not liking the drug plot with Jon. Meanwhile, the affair plot with Lana and Kyle is just a run-of-the-mill affair plot.
I also have trouble buying the plot with Anderson. At first, General Hardcastle was ordering him to find a way to work with Superman or else he'd get canned, but then the same general backed his play to shoot Superman and arrest him for treason? How do those two things connect in any logical way? Why couldn't they allow Anderson to be a less one-dimensional baddie and actually agree to trade the pendant for Bizarro? An actor of Ian Bohen's abilities deserves a more multifaceted character.
Interesting that they named the general Hardcastle, after Charles Napier's character from Superman: The Animated Series and Justice League Unlimited. The original Hardcastle was similar to Anderson, a US general who hated aliens and saw Superman as a threat. So it's weird that they gave the name to a character who seemed to want Superman on her side, at least until that contradictory twist later on.
Sam bringing the Lane sisters together to bond again was a high point, though, at least until it predictably went south at the end.
I'm still not enjoying this season's storylines, though. The Bizarro world makes little sense, as well as the plot feeling too much like a rehash of season 1. It's hard to buy this random cult-leader character as the season's existential threat; I'm wondering if "Ally Alston" will turn out to be an alias for some character we know (Granny Goodness, maybe?). And I'm really not liking the drug plot with Jon. Meanwhile, the affair plot with Lana and Kyle is just a run-of-the-mill affair plot.
I also have trouble buying the plot with Anderson. At first, General Hardcastle was ordering him to find a way to work with Superman or else he'd get canned, but then the same general backed his play to shoot Superman and arrest him for treason? How do those two things connect in any logical way? Why couldn't they allow Anderson to be a less one-dimensional baddie and actually agree to trade the pendant for Bizarro? An actor of Ian Bohen's abilities deserves a more multifaceted character.
Interesting that they named the general Hardcastle, after Charles Napier's character from Superman: The Animated Series and Justice League Unlimited. The original Hardcastle was similar to Anderson, a US general who hated aliens and saw Superman as a threat. So it's weird that they gave the name to a character who seemed to want Superman on her side, at least until that contradictory twist later on.
Sam bringing the Lane sisters together to bond again was a high point, though, at least until it predictably went south at the end.
I agree with Christopher, Anderson didn’t make any sense in this episode. You are about to be fired because of your bad relationship with Superman and what you do is double down and kidnap him?
My point was more that the writing of General Hardcastle didn't make sense, in that she ended up rubber-stamping the exact kind of behavior she was threatening to fire Anderson for at the start. Anderson himself was consistent throughout, which was disappointing but not unbelievable.
Aaaannnd it happened. Evidently "she not deserve him". Or something similar.
Aaaannnd it happened. Evidently "she not deserve him". Or something similar.
It is utterly ridiculous to equate a 14-year-old kissing someone once, regretting it, and promptly telling her boyfriend with a married man carrying on a months-long affair and hiding it from his wife for two years. They're orders of magnitude apart in seriousness.
I'm expecting a big reveal with him, since he was so seriously injured, and he's been absent for a couple of episodes without so much as a detailed reference to his condition/what he's thinking, etc.. With Irons' daughter pissed at SM, SM caught in the middle of the DOD campaign against him, some potential team-up with Tal-Rho, Irons might have a major decision to make about his life and what brought him to this point.
The opening was pretty cool, especially the fight in the corridor.
It was nice seeing the Lane sisters actually getting along, but I wasn't surprised it got ugly again at the end there. Things were too bad for them to just forget about it, and be a happy family.
I wonder if they decided to bring in a more antagonistic military leader after they decided to have Sam Lane retire, or if they had Sam retire specifically so they could introduce a more antagonistic military leader?
I'm curious if Kyle & Lana's split is actually going to last. With what we learned here, you have to wonder if Kyle would have kept the affair going if Sarah hadn't tried to commit suicide.
It was nice seeing the Lane sisters actually getting along, but I wasn't surprised it got ugly again at the end there. Things were too bad for them to just forget about it, and be a happy family.
I wonder if they decided to bring in a more antagonistic military leader after they decided to have Sam Lane retire, or if they had Sam retire specifically so they could introduce a more antagonistic military leader?
I'm curious if Kyle & Lana's split is actually going to last. With what we learned here, you have to wonder if Kyle would have kept the affair going if Sarah hadn't tried to commit suicide.
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