Spoilers "Superman & Lois" Season 1 spoiler discussion!

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  1. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Where's that from? Original product of Guy Gardener? Nice work on any account.

    Never watched much of that show.
     
  2. Christopher

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    The concept of Jimmy being "nerdy" comes mainly from Jack Larson on TV. Jimmy was created on radio to be a cool, popular kid, a figure that children in the audience could identify with and fantasize about being like, as he palled around with Superman and fought crime and went on wild adventures to the Moon and lost underground kingdoms and such. He was to Superman what Robin was to Batman, particularly in the comics of the '50s and early '60s. (Jimmy was a very rare presence in the '40s comics despite being a core player on radio; his comics career didn't take off until the mid-'50s, in reaction to his prominence in the TV series.) Except he was more prone than Robin to go on solo adventures in which he was the central character, albeit inevitably needing Superman to come to his rescue eventually.
     
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    Wow, I never knew all that! Thanks!

    Regarding Superman Returns, anyone here ever read the article Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex? :evil: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_of_Steel,_Woman_of_Kleenex?wprov=sfla1

    Also, I had major issues with how much that movie ripped off the 1978 Superman. There were literally complete lines of dialog from it! We took a friend to see it with us and afterwards brought her home to show her Superman: The Movie (she'd never seen it).
     
  4. KamenRiderBlade

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    What I wanted to see with the boys was them getting partial Superman Powers.

    Each one get's ½ of Clark's powers and learn how to function as a tandem when push comes to shove.
     
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  5. Jayson1

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    I kind of hope that they switch the trope and have the one without powers become the crime fighter. Jonathan becomes a cop. Maybe even finds a home in Smallville as being a officer on the force. Jordan becomes a musician or something. Eventually goes out and sees the world. I kind of like they idea of them showing 2 different ways of basically living the American dream. The peaceful quiet way of small town life or a more worldly way where you go and experience new and different things yet both are shown to be good things.
     
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  6. Mr. Adventure

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    We get it, you're woke.

    SuperTwin Powers...Activate!
     
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  7. TREK_GOD_1

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    Yes--decades ago, and Niven was correct on some points, but he understood (from interviews conducted in the years after his essay) that DC was never going to explore the numerous impossibilities in a Kryptonian having sexual relations with a fragile human being. That's something one would expect to see in vintage MAD magazine.

    Superman Returns was helmed by a man who believed regurgitating every creative beat and tone from the Donner and Lester films was going to make his movie not only a sequel, but mainline the success of the 1978 film into his own, making it a would-be "perfect" bookend production. Obviously, that failed for a number of reasons (including Routh apeing Reeve and Spacey doing the same with Hackman to the point where a recent viewing will leave one coming away with the idea that their performances were partial parody, the film set in the present day, yet this sequel's characters have not aged in decades, etc.).

    Singer's only "credit" is that he liberally used the physicality and certain visual stylings from the comics.
     
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  8. Jayson1

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    Oh boy. The woke word has been evoked. This thread is about to go sideways for a few pages.
     
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  9. TREK_GOD_1

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    Quoted for truth.
     
  10. Christopher

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    "Woke" simply means aware of what's going on, not in denial about the state of things. So I'll take it. And I have no sympathy for people who think it's an insult.
     
  11. Mr. Adventure

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    It's not that being woke is bad, substitute any word you want there, it's the least important one. It's the insinuation that anyone who has talked about Lois' appearance are part of that society that feels more entitled to talk about women's appearance than men, and that, but of course, you're not one of those.

    It's like the old joke, how do you know someone is vegan? Don't worry, they'll tell you.
     
  12. TREK_GOD_1

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    ...and assume they are qualified to speak about / define every group outside of their own, including making judgements about the beliefs, needs and desires of others.
     
  13. Jayson1

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    Woke was just a slogan and eventually became a slur and now is more slur than slogan because it becoming a slur rendered it useless as a slogan.
     
  14. Guy Gardener

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    "Superman Created Equal" was a comic where all the men on Earth died, except Superman (and Lex Luthor).

    A virus.

    So superman finally knocked up Lois.

    She died in child birth like popping a pimple.

    After that he was only allowed to make new babies with Amazons.

    They may have died?
     
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    What does that have to do with anything?
     
  16. Guy Gardener

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    This...

    Woke just means you woke up and noticed injustice you didn't earlier.

    To be honest, no one is woke.

    No one just woke up.

    We all know that women and minorities have been shit on by old rich white guys since old rich white guys were invented.
     
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    See the Batwoman thread. Some white liberals (like the one referred to on page 82) arrogantly yell from the rooftops about how they "understand" others and dare to "explain" what their needs, beliefs or values are (and who they should see as their problem), when its that exact type of white liberal who is the most unqualified, inexperienced of all to talk the shit they do. For people like me, it is seen as utterly presumptuous and offensive in the extreme.
     
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  18. Nerys Myk

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  19. Commander Troi

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    Anyway... :rolleyes:

    Of course Niven understood that, but I felt like someone had read it when (pre-TV-Crisis) Clark took Lois to Argo City to have the baby. I thought it was at least partially a safety precaution.

    Also, I have to admit that the Super-Wonder-Twins idea has a certain appeal. :techman:
     
  20. Guy Gardener

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    If Alison Mack is a sex Cult leader who brands her sex slaves, then maybe her character "Chloe" from Smallville is a sex Cult leader who brands her sex slaves?

    Rewatching Smallville Post Nxivm will be a hoot.

    Bullshitting on the spot.

    Although, I am wondering if there is a connection between The Green Lantern emotional spectrum, and the colours of Kyrptonite.

    White light/Life
    White Kryptonite/Lethal to plant life.

    Red light/Rage ·
    Red Kryptonite/ Remove inhibitions

    Orange light/Avarice ·
    Orange Kryptonite/ gives animals superpowers

    Yellow light/Fear ·
    Yellow Kryptonite/Gold Kryptonite/ Takes away super powers permanently.

    Green light/Willpower ·
    Green Kryptonite/ Weakens Kryptonians, kills with long enough exposure.

    Blue light/Hope ·
    Blue Kryptonite/ Weakens Bizarro, Kills with long enough exposure.

    Indigo light/Compassion ·
    Indigo Kryptonite/Perrywinkle Kryptonite/Loses inhibitions.

    Violet light/Love.
    Violet Kryptonite/Purple Kryptonite/ Seen on Superfriends, effect unknown.
     
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