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A full time fireman in a town with less than 4000 houses/shops/warehouse?

When you need a fire truck, you need a damn fire truck... But are they paying 30 guys 40 thousand dollars a year, each, to wait years and years for the next fire? It would be far cheaper to let half the town burn down.

If Smallville really is a small Ville, then budget withholding, they could probably get by with a volunteer fire service.

What this really sounds like is a high school football pension.

Or money laundering or a tax rightoff.
It's a TV show. :shrug:
 
It's a TV show. :shrug:

And furthermore...

The only way they are going to get some use out of that fire engine, is insurance fraud. Lana is burning down farms moments before they go under, which seems charitable to the local farmers until you ask what her piece of the action is?

A super genius business woman working as a minor clerk in a shitty little bank in a shitty little country town... Embezzlement is where she starts, but that would make Lana a local head for intergang.

Consider...

As the head of Intergang, Morgan is not aware that one of his cappos is moments away from taking his thrown.

Shes a criminal savant moments from locking Morgan's balls in a box... And he bends down to Lana offering her a patronizing olive branch like she's a helpless moron child.

"Sigh"
 
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A full time fireman in a town with less than 4000 houses/shops/warehouse?
I know it's not the same continuity, but Smallville had a population of 45,000 people in Smallville.

But even so...how small does a city have to be before they don't have multiple full time fire emergency workers?
 
I know it's not the same continuity, but Smallville had a population of 45,000 people in Smallville.

But even so...how small does a city have to be before they don't have multiple full time fire emergency workers?

Not sure. It probably also depends on the financial ability of the town to afford it. Pelham, NY only has 12,000 people... but it's like 15 miles outside Manhattan and fairly affluent with the medium family incoming in the six figures. They have their own fire department with 1 engine truck, 1 ladder truck, and 24/7 staffed by at least 3 firefighters with all of their firefighters having EMT certification for the state of NY.

BTW. Since Smallville is in Kansas I looked up Kansas and cities and picked a small one (5,000 people) called Concordia. They have a Fire Department with at least 1 truck, 7 full-time employees with at least 1 full-time employee always on site 24/7 and about 19 to 20 reserves who are listed are volunteers/part-time.
 
4000 homes is maybe 20 to 30 thousand people, give or take.

Meanwhile Smallville population double during harvest season by seasonal workers. so is that 40 thousand the locals, or the locals and the farm hands who go somewhere else for 9 months of the year.

Now consider that this isn't suburbia.

Every farm is dozens of square kilometres large.

Smallville is as large as a city, but it's mostly paddocks full of grain or cows. You need more than one truck to monitor that much space responsibly, but a grain field is not going to accidentally set a cow on fire.

That's a lot of land, but not a lot of people.

According to the National Fire Protection Association, 70 percent of firefighters in the United States are volunteers.[10][11] The Volunteer Firefighter Alliance represents Volunteer Firefighters across the U.S. The National Volunteer Fire Council represents fire and emergency services on a national level, providing advocacy, information, resources, and programs to support volunteer first responders.

Good lord.

If their's no crime and graft... Then Kyle is a Volunteer, freeloading off his wife, who is just a kind clerk at a little bank...

Is Lana not running a fortune 500, because she has no interest in paying Kyle 100s of millions in a divorce settlement and alimony?
 
Hoechlin’s costume looks so much better on this show.

I do hope we don’t start to get too many rando kryptotypes. I like where it was going with Luthor, Edge, even types like Kilgrave. At the very least I hope they’re more creative with abilities than can give/take a punch.
 
I hope this 'school' actually shows up and matters and doesn't get dropped like when Buffy had the invisible girl end up at an assassin school for invisible kids and it never came up again.

I think the students are going to be recruited into Edge's Army...hence the X joke.

One example is men's complaint that if they offer solutions to problems that women bring up in conversation, the women are not necessarily interested in solving those problems, but mainly want to talk about them. The book asserts each sex can be understood in terms of distinct ways they respond to stress and stressful situations.​

Whereas many men find talking about a situation in that way to be stressful--and women interpret not wanting to have those discussions as a personal rejection or dismissal.

If Smallville really is a small Ville, then budget withholding, they could probably get by with a volunteer fire service.

This is Canada and things may be different here, but I live in a town of about 3000 and we do have a volunteer fire department but we also have a chief and assistant chief. They are responsible for administration of all things fire safety related for the surrounding area which here is forest--but in Smallville it would be farms. Issuing fire safety permits, etc. I assume in the U.S. there must be a similar position, maybe elected, that is required in municipalities and their extended communities?
 
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Re: the fire truck. grass fires.

Here's my final take on his job.

The chief gets paid.

3 to 7 other people get paid, because someone who gets paid has to be at the station, at least one of those people has to always be there waiting for a fire. You can't trust volunteers.

A few more volunteers hang out at the station, and the rest are on call.

The result of all this is Kyle is a real man with a real job.

Still not good enough for Lana though.
 
Whereas many men find talking about a situation in that way to be stressful--and women interpret not wanting to have those discussions as a personal rejection or dismissal.

Which is part of why it's so unhealthy to raise men to believe it's a weakness to be in touch with your emotions. Surely it's a greater weakness to let a part of yourself go unused and undeveloped, to be unable to understand it or connect to it because you never learned how. It makes it harder to cope in situations where emotional engagement is needed and beneficial, e.g. in understanding and supporting one's spouse.
 
So, I understand the Lana's frustration, but what was the right thing her husband should have done at dinner?

Kyle should have asserted his status as her husband at least physically after Edge all but claimed he "owned" her by referring to her as "one of mine". There are implications in that line, but Kyle had his lips firmly planted on Edge's ass, so he just sat there and allowed Edge to be as controlling and suggestive as he wanted to be. That's how relationships fall apart, hence Lana's outrage. If you're married and a situation like that happens, you step up, and do not hold back because of some misguided spin on decorum (not meaning your idea personally).
 
I think one issue is if he tells General Lane he is Lex Luthor he knows he won't gain their trust. This world already knows about Lex Luthor being a villain. I suspect Captain Luthor knows as well. Has done some research when he got to this earth. Jason
Yeah, but just saying the name Luthor at all would probably be enough to make Lane or other good guys suspicious, so using or not using his first name isn't going to make much of a difference.
 
Kyle should have asserted his status as her husband at least physically after Edge all but claimed he "owned" her by referring to her as "one of mine". There are implications in that line, but Kyle had his lips firmly planted on Edge's ass, so he just sat there and allowed Edge to be as controlling and suggestive as he wanted to be. That's how relationships fall apart, hence Lana's outrage. If you're married and a situation like that happens, you step up, and do not hold back because of some misguided spin on decorum (not meaning your idea personally).

Kyle is gay.

He's into Morgan Edge.

Which is making Lana Jealous, and explains her hysterical reaction.
 
Kyle should have asserted his status as her husband at least physically after Edge all but claimed he "owned" her by referring to her as "one of mine". There are implications in that line, but Kyle had his lips firmly planted on Edge's ass, so he just sat there and allowed Edge to be as controlling and suggestive as he wanted to be. That's how relationships fall apart, hence Lana's outrage.

That's the last thing that would've made Lana feel Kyle respected her feelings. Edge's "one of mine" statement was only vaguely suggestive, and could just as easily have been about his mindset as a businessman seeing people as resources to be exploited, rather than a sexual innuendo. Kyle reacting to that with jealous possessiveness would've made it about his own insecurity, and it would've been treating Lana like a piece of sexual property to be fought over.

What she wanted was for him to support her, not claim her. She's an adult able to handle the situation for herself. She didn't want him to do it for her, just to be aware of what she was feeling and ready to back her up. She wants him to treat her as a valued equal partner in their life together -- certainly not just as a possession to assert a claim on.
 
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In recent comics, Lana Lang somehow absorbed part of Superman's powers and became Superwoman.
This happened when the New 52 universe was reabsorbed into mainline continuity. Superman had been split in two, each residing in a different universe. Essentially a riff on the Superman Red/Superman Blue trope. When the universes began to merge, Superman Red died, his energies being "returned" to Superman Blue. Lana was nearby when this happened and absorbed some of the Red energy, hence her red costume.
 
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