Well, at least Daly gets a better script this time around than "Brainiac Attacks!".
Superman Batman: Public Enemies
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Well, at least Daly gets a better script this time around than "Brainiac Attacks!".
I stopped reading Superman comics because of the likeness of his artwork. As much as Christopher Reeve was a superman in real life, I never liked the 70s/80s Superman movies, and didn't think any of the actors were particularly well-suited to their roles (except Reeve in the screen test scene featured in the Richard Donner cut of Superman II).
I grew up with the 40s cartoons and comics, though (about ten years after the Reeve movie series), along with George Reeves Nick at Nite and (occasionally) Dean Cain on ABC, so it's not Surprising that the version of Superman farthest from his roots would bother me.
This comic is why I began to hate Jeph Loeb.
He just mashes capes together for no reason than to create physical conflict because, any other type of cpnflict seems to be beyond him, but what really got me is how he destroyed Luthors presidency? Really!?
He just mashes capes together for no reason than to create physical conflict because, any other type of cpnflict seems to be beyond him, but what really got me is how he destroyed Luthors presidency? Really!?
I suppose Ellis did the same thing to Doctor Doom 2099 when he stormed the white house but come on? there are so many ways that luthor could have gone off the rails and descended into evil... He sold his soul to the devil for fucks sake, but no, lets blame it all on riod rage from fucking kryptonite steroids because it's not like he didn't lose his original body from Kryptonite poisoning is it?
Alan Oppenheimer is great. I got to work with him a few years ago, and he was such a nice man, as well.
Oh, so true!
Bumping the thread because it's out today.
So did anyone buy it yet?
So did anyone buy it yet?
Got it at the top of my Netflix queue. It says "Long wait," but the past couple of "Long wait" DVDs from them came promptly, so we'll see.
Had the privilege of seeing it last week and man...its awesome. Blows the other away and it doesn't feel rushed at all.
I'm going to pick it up at Target tonight ... Blu-Ray or DVD? Hmm, probably DVD.
I just watched my copy, and it was awesome indeed.
Mine was sent. I'll get it tomorrow. You guys can have it then.
I thought also that it was the closest of the new line to having a TimmVerse feel to it.
I enjoyed it. I didn't care for the animation. I preferred the old DCAU look, but the plot was pretty good, though I think they rushed the ending. I was a little disappointed that LeVar Burton's Black Lightning only got one line of dialogue. It seemed from interviews that I looked at that BL would play a larger role. I really enjoyed the banter between Bruce and Clark. It was one of the highlights of the movies and did remind me of the old DCAU a bit. Not to mention that the three main characters were voiced by their DCAU voice actors, which was cool. Overall, a pretty good tale.
I do see what Guy was talking about though regarding Luthor's presidency. I think there would've been much more opposition to Luthor from jump, even if he had been able to cover up or get away with most of his crimes, the mere allegations would've dogged him. I also see more Congressional opposition to him. And I could just see a myriad of ways, big and small that Luthor could be brought down without going over the edge like he did. That being said, I enjoyed the story for what it was.
Where I rank the newer DC animated films I've seen:
1. Wonder Woman
2. Superman/Doomsday
3. Superman/Batman: Public Enemies
4. New Frontier
5. Green Lantern
6. Batman: Gotham Knight
The only one I really didn't like on the list was GK. I wish I could rank it lower.
I do see what Guy was talking about though regarding Luthor's presidency. I think there would've been much more opposition to Luthor from jump, even if he had been able to cover up or get away with most of his crimes, the mere allegations would've dogged him. I also see more Congressional opposition to him. And I could just see a myriad of ways, big and small that Luthor could be brought down without going over the edge like he did. That being said, I enjoyed the story for what it was.
Where I rank the newer DC animated films I've seen:
1. Wonder Woman
2. Superman/Doomsday
3. Superman/Batman: Public Enemies
4. New Frontier
5. Green Lantern
6. Batman: Gotham Knight
The only one I really didn't like on the list was GK. I wish I could rank it lower.
Watched it last night. If DC and Warners can't get their act together with regards to giving us live-action superhero movies, they can keep right on making the animateds if they're of this quality.
My only complaint is that it was a bit too short, so the story felt rushed at times (take away the opening and closing credits and it's barely an hour). It almost felt like a pilot.
I didn't have a problem with the animation, except that there appeared to be an absence of necks with regards to a few characters. I thought it was pretty consistent with what I'd seen in JLU and other DCAU films, except maybe for the design of Superman.
A few things (minor spoilers - for some reason spoiler coding is not working for me):
- Is it possible to make Amanda Waller any more obese? Strangely, they actually make her a sympathetic character in this one, unlike all other recent comic and animated portrayals.
- Power Girl, drawn more or less the way she looks in the comics. 'Nuff said. My only complaint is they played her a bit more like the younger Supergirl (obligatory boob joke notwithstanding) as opposed to Karen Star who in the comics is supposed to be a somewhat more mature character.
- Great to have Conroy and Daly back as Batman and Superman, though I am looking forward to hearing NCIS' Mark Harmon voice Superman in the Crisis on Two Earths film (which is previewed in the extras). For some reason Clancy Brown's voice sounds higher-pitched as Luthor than it has in the past.
- The absence of Green Lantern (featured in the original comic story) was kind of odd. They must have decided not to overplay him since the last animated film was about GL and there's also the live-action movie being kicked around.
- The PG-13 rating is a joke. This film is far less violent than Wonder Woman; and before anyone asks, no the "crude comment" warned about in the label has nothing to do with PG's bust size. But you can't miss it when you (sort of) hear it.
If you buy the 2-disc version, there's a couple of animated Superman episodes that are cool to see, as well.
Alex
My only complaint is that it was a bit too short, so the story felt rushed at times (take away the opening and closing credits and it's barely an hour). It almost felt like a pilot.
I didn't have a problem with the animation, except that there appeared to be an absence of necks with regards to a few characters. I thought it was pretty consistent with what I'd seen in JLU and other DCAU films, except maybe for the design of Superman.
A few things (minor spoilers - for some reason spoiler coding is not working for me):
- Is it possible to make Amanda Waller any more obese? Strangely, they actually make her a sympathetic character in this one, unlike all other recent comic and animated portrayals.
- Power Girl, drawn more or less the way she looks in the comics. 'Nuff said. My only complaint is they played her a bit more like the younger Supergirl (obligatory boob joke notwithstanding) as opposed to Karen Star who in the comics is supposed to be a somewhat more mature character.
- Great to have Conroy and Daly back as Batman and Superman, though I am looking forward to hearing NCIS' Mark Harmon voice Superman in the Crisis on Two Earths film (which is previewed in the extras). For some reason Clancy Brown's voice sounds higher-pitched as Luthor than it has in the past.
- The absence of Green Lantern (featured in the original comic story) was kind of odd. They must have decided not to overplay him since the last animated film was about GL and there's also the live-action movie being kicked around.
- The PG-13 rating is a joke. This film is far less violent than Wonder Woman; and before anyone asks, no the "crude comment" warned about in the label has nothing to do with PG's bust size. But you can't miss it when you (sort of) hear it.
If you buy the 2-disc version, there's a couple of animated Superman episodes that are cool to see, as well.
Alex
I really liked Gotham Knight myself, but it's such a different format from the others that I wouldn't put it on the list anyway.
And I haven't seen Public Enemies yet, but so far Green Lantern is the clear favorite for me, followed by Wonder Woman.
Which is ironic, because they've always been the two characters I've been the LEAST interested in. lol
Well, I liked it! I liked the comic. It sure wasn't deep or thought provoking but it sure was fun. If I had a complaint, it's that the McGuinness-aping animation came off looking a little cheap and rushed at time, and McGuinness is one of my favorite artists. It was just so cool to see Supes and Bats at their most bad-ass-ed-ness taking out all the heroes and villains of the DCU.
Watched it last night. The blu-ray was pristine...I've never seen animation clearer.
I liked the animation style, I have to say. The voice work was top-notch but that is to be expected from the usual suspects. I wish they were reprising the roles in 'Crisis on Two Earths'.
If the 'crude comment' was about the Toyman having x-ray goggles or whatever, I wouldn't even count that. Even the Power Girl boob joke was barely there.
I liked the animation style, I have to say. The voice work was top-notch but that is to be expected from the usual suspects. I wish they were reprising the roles in 'Crisis on Two Earths'.
If the 'crude comment' was about the Toyman having x-ray goggles or whatever, I wouldn't even count that. Even the Power Girl boob joke was barely there.
