Exactly, neither train. She's stronger.
Supergirl - Season Four
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Exactly, neither train. She's stronger.
Which is something I am fine with.
Here's a good question however... Why is Mon-El 10 times, maybe a hundred times weaker than Kara, when his mother, Queen Rhea, is stronger than Clark, even though she'd only been solar charged for days, or maybe a couple weeks at most?
It's almost like his daddy isn't Hercules.
Here's a good question however... Why is Mon-El 10 times, maybe a hundred times weaker than Kara, when his mother, Queen Rhea, is stronger than Clark, even though she'd only been solar charged for days, or maybe a couple weeks at most?
It's almost like his daddy isn't Hercules.
Bad genetics on his dad's side? The fact that Daxamites are physiologically slightly different to Kryptonians? The preponderance of lead on Earth's surface? Simply luck of the draw and being a comparative wimp? Maybe he makes poor dietary choices and should lay of the empty calories?
What I was saying is that first, the producers on SUPERGIRL cannot decide to kill Superman (which is what I was replying to originally). That's up to DC and whatever division controls overseeing all the characters.
Second, that with these producers, they'd have Superman become transgender (and don't say it's far-fetched, they have a TG character coming this season) if they could. They (Berlanti and company) have an agenda which they don't hesitate to advance anytime they can.
You mean the "agenda" of tolerance and diversity?
What horrible, horrible people, trying to push positive messages in a show about good people doing good things...
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One can show tolerance and diversity without standing on a soapbox shouting about it and having a check the box mentality.
Of course it's farfetched. The very fact that Clark goes by the name Superman indicates that he self-genders as male. You should try to find out how transgenderism actually works before making claims about it. It's not an arbitrary change, it's correcting a medical or societal misassignment of one's gender.
That's pretty much the definition of what superheroes do -- they don't hesitate to fight for all people's rights and freedoms. They stand up against injustice and oppression whenever they see it. Male dominance is an agenda too. White dominance is an agenda. Transphobia and homophobia are agendas. They're agendas of a narrow group to deny equal consideration to everyone else, even to deny their very right to exist. Which is usually what supervillains do -- advance their own selfish agendas at everyone else's expense -- while superheroes set aside their own self-interest to stand up for everyone. The agenda of people like the Berlanti producers is to give equal consideration to everyone, to acknowledge the basic truth of human diversity rather than fighting against it.
Have you any idea how any of this works?
One does not become transgender by having one's genitalia mutilated. It's a deeply fundamental decision one makes about their own identity and personally I applaud the producers for including a trans character in a medium which sidelines trans people. Why would it be a problem?
So they have an agenda? Great, I wish more people shared it because it's agenda of decency and tolerance, not narrow minded unwillingness to accept differences and change.
I have no idea whether they could kill Superman off to be honest, or whether DC might even be brave enough to let them. It's happened before in other media and other continuities, so why would it be precluded here?
1. Transgender people are a part of reality. Establishing a transgender person in a TV show is not sign of any agenda except to reflect reality. This character hasn't even been introduced in any episode, not even in a trailer or other promotion other than the actress appearing at SDCC as part of the whole cast. So your objections can't have anything to do with the agenda-driven depiction of a transperson, which suggests that your objection is against any depiction of transpeople, which is just closing yourself off from reality.
2. There's also a green shapeshifter under the cover of a black person in the cast, and you would hopefully agree it would be ridiculous to conclude from this that Superman will appear in blackface*. Because it is. Just as your idea of Superman being transgendered based on a transgender character being introduced in the upcoming season. Not that this is how transgenderism works, as others have already explained.
*Just to make sure, I'm not in the least trying to put transgenderism and blackface in the same category, as one is totally okay and the other is not. My point was to expose the ridiculousness of @Photoman15 's notion.
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Where did you see an objection?
I said I wouldn't be surprised if they (Berlanti, et al) decide that Superman has decided he "identifies" as female.
As for people, "You are what you are". I don't care what anyone is. Doesn't bother me. I made a comment about the production people.
Which is so obviously absurd and non sequitur that it feels like a passive-aggressive dig at the fact that one of the new characters this season is transgender. You're mocking the inclusion of such a character rather than trying to understand why it makes sense for that specific person.
His was one of the worst runs I've read. Then again he hasn't written anything worth reading since long before then.
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Aside from your obvious beef with the producers, you cite the inclusion of a TG character as proof that the producers would change Superman's gender. Apparently, in your view, one is at least close to being as ridiculous as the other, if not the same level.
That backtracking is really awkward. And not believable to me, sorry.
Seconded, rabbit meet headlights
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I thought David's run was solid for what it was, but I'm resistant to the "Matrix" Supergirl conceptually. To me, Supergirl is Superman's Kryptonian cousin, Kara Zor-El, not a blob of shapeshifting goo (or a human girl merged with said goo).
Here's a photo of Supergirl holding a puppy surrounded by super girls:
Unless some people are alleric to dogs, but those people are evil
