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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 5

I agree with you. But eventually, the bough will break and the network will move on. It's not going to be this year though.

(Not that I'd ever, ever try to find a silver lining with the pandemic.)

I think Supergirl will end when either Berlanti and/or Melissa Benoist decide to end it (or when her contract runs out). It's very likely going 7 seasons, at which point all parties involved will probably have a fairly easy decision to end the series based on a number of converging factors (new career opportunities/life priorities for Melissa, declining ratings, lack of new storylines, etc.)

Small chance that it goes to 8 seasons to match Arrow, but at that point I think the cast will be pretty expensive since it'd likely take new contracts to keep them on.
 
A movie? WB was said to have planned a DCEU Supergirl movie having nothing to do with the CW show. That, and I doubt there's not much of an audience eager to see a big screen version of this series.
 
Moving away from ratings for a moment, when they do start shooting again Melissa Benoist is going to be super pregnant, so how's that going to work if the start of the season is concluding the story from this season.

Given how badly they've failed to hide Danielle Panabaker's pregnancy I don't hold out much hope.
 
Moving away from ratings for a moment, when they do start shooting again Melissa Benoist is going to be super pregnant, so how's that going to work if the start of the season is concluding the story from this season.

First off, do we even know when shooting will resume?

Second, I don't think they're doing a cliffhanger like The Flash did. I read they're crafting a new finale using the footage they have from what were going to be a couple of different episodes. So the season's arc will resolve, but a bit sooner and not in quite the same way as initially planned.
 
Moving away from ratings for a moment, when they do start shooting again Melissa Benoist is going to be super pregnant, so how's that going to work if the start of the season is concluding the story from this season.

Given how badly they've failed to hide Danielle Panabaker's pregnancy I don't hold out much hope.

First off, do we even know when shooting will resume?

Second, I don't think they're doing a cliffhanger like The Flash did. I read they're crafting a new finale using the footage they have from what were going to be a couple of different episodes. So the season's arc will resolve, but a bit sooner and not in quite the same way as initially planned.

Everything I've read and seen seems to suggest September/October for filming dates for non-Canadian productions in BC. Which probably is pretty close to Melissa's delivery date. I don't think the show will be that far behind the other Arrowverse shows, if at all.
 
Everything I've read and seen seems to suggest September/October for filming dates for non-Canadian productions in BC. Which probably is pretty close to Melissa's delivery date. I don't think the show will be that far behind the other Arrowverse shows, if at all.
That presumes there isn't a second and more severe wave of COVID19 this fall, that sends everyone into another quarantine.

I wouldn't be surprised to find filming shifted another 6 months, if not longer.
 
Maybe Supergirl gets in a timetravel accident and she aged into Helen Slater, who can play Supergirl for a couple of episodes :)
 
That presumes there isn't a second and more severe wave of COVID19 this fall, that sends everyone into another quarantine.

I wouldn't be surprised to find filming shifted another 6 months, if not longer.
Another Super Hero Show: Danger Force, made a new episode while obeying social distancing rules.

It was creatively fun.
 
The biggest issue, and I think everyone saw this coming, was Lena deciding that she was wrong, and people simply ignoring her crimes. Nothing changes what she did to pre-Crisis Eve, and nothing changes the other crimes she committed because her feelings were hurt. Lena is the villain, and it will be interesting if the audience is as forgiving as the writers.
 
Actually no, or maybe.

Is this Earth Prime Lena before us, precrisis Earth Prime Lena with some or all of Earth 1 Lena's memories... Or was Earth Prime's Lena wiped clean by the Monitor, and her insides are %100 Earth 1 Lena?

If the former, then the current Lena didn't exist 16 billion years ago, when Earth 1 Lena was being super shady.

If the latter, then this 16 billion year old woman had nothing to do with Earth Prime Lena's super shady shennagagans during the last 30 years, because she just got here.

So she's either innocent, or we never viewed what happened on Earth Prime to know the specific crimes she committed precrisis, so she's guilty of not exactly completely different crimes.
 
Her soul/memories are the Earth 1 Lena. I believe the Monitor designed that.

But let's take that another level--The Lex Luthor of Earth Prime was a saint. The paragon Luthor is the Lex we all know. He replaced the Earth Prime Lex. Does the Earth Prime Lex exist? There has been no evidence that Earth 1 Lex has Earth Prime Lex's memories. But even so, Earth 1 Lex seems to be the dominant personality. There really is no difference.

Instead of taking the reset, Lex is still his evil self. So are his crimes on Earth 1 wiped out because Earth 1 was wiped out? I don't think they are.

Plus, we seem to have a situation where once your Earth 1 memories are restored, the pre-crisis version dominates.

Superman didn't even realize he had 2 sons. That makes no sense if he had all his memories from Earth Prime.

I would say that this absolutely is Earth 1 Lena, the evil villain who committed all those crimes. Even if the Eva crime was erased by Crisis, it still happened. I don't think the crimes go away if the Earth does.
 
When you say "crimes" you mean "bad things" and not " Possible criminal acts within the jurisdiction of an American Court of Law on Earth Prime to judge the innocence or guilt thereof" right?

I just looked it up.

(I have the entire season on 8mm film.)

One of the first things Lena says Post Crisis, to her brother after waking up is "YOU'RE DEAD!"

So, yes, you're right, %100 Earth 1 Lena, on the inside, at least, just like the Paragons.
 
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8MM film?

I think Lena committed actual criminal acts. Unauthorized experimentation, HUMAN experimentation, kidnapping, and I'm pretty confident there is a law against mind raping. Even if there isn't something like that in the real world, in a world of superheroes and aliens, I would guess some legislation would have been passed.
 
Maybe Supergirl gets in a timetravel accident and she aged into Helen Slater, who can play Supergirl for a couple of episodes :)

Except it would be tough to explain why she ended up looking like her foster mother as she aged instead of her biological mother.
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8MM film?

I think Lena committed actual criminal acts. Unauthorized experimentation, HUMAN experimentation, kidnapping, and I'm pretty confident there is a law against mind raping. Even if there isn't something like that in the real world, in a world of superheroes and aliens, I would guess some legislation would have been passed.

Intentional infliction of emotional abuse?

You know how if you murder someone in Argentina, that the American DOJ can't prosecute that alleged crime?

16 billion years ago, in another universe, is sorta the same thing.

Of course, the Superfriends can take the law into their own hands, and decide to convict and execute Lena, because it feels like the right thing to do, since they are the last survivors of Earth 1.

Which makes them all super-villains.

At least on BSG Vice President Zarek signed off on the secret tribunals, and secret executions, so that it was all kinda legal.
 
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Moving away from ratings for a moment, when they do start shooting again Melissa Benoist is going to be super pregnant, so how's that going to work if the start of the season is concluding the story from this season.

Given how badly they've failed to hide Danielle Panabaker's pregnancy I don't hold out much hope.

Hasn't David Harewood said in March following the production shut down, that himself and Melissa Benoist had finished shooting their scenes for the 5x20? If it is true, that could mean their presence will not be necessary once the filming will have resumed (and besides, Benoist will still be in her maternity leave time, which is 12 weeks with certain conditions, in USA, right?!). On the other hand, according to interviews given by Nicole Maines (she has said that her scenes included Staz Nair and Julia Gonzalo, what could mean they could be at Catco), Jon Cryer and lately Chyler Leigh, we learn that they still had some scenes to shoot so when the confinement will be totally or partially lifted at Vancouver, they could return ending their shooting in taking into account the new post-confinement (no physical proximity between the actors, what means no kissing, no hugs, nor face to face unless actors are at a certain distance from each other, no crowd scene, etc... .).
-> let me tell you that for some time, shippers (Alex/Kelly ; Kara/William - if writers keep insisting about their supposed romance -; Nia/Brainy - even if now, they don't talk togather a lot - ; J'onn/ M'Gann and of course Kara/Lena whose their hugs were famous from s2 to s4!) risk to be very frustrated for the lack! :lol:

About the 5x20, once finished and finally edited, the episode will surely serve as premiere for season 6.
And, I don't see the shooting with Supergirl cast entirely reunited resume before the end of the year see early next year... when it is the coldest in Vancouver! :whistle:

Chyler Leigh's interviews to TV Guide
https://www.tvguide.com/amp/news/supergirl-chyler-leigh-season-5-finale-alex-new-persona/)
 
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