Yes, but this is the Berlanti Supergirl, so powerful men need not apply, and if they do, they are purely backseat occupants of the events.
Probably.
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Yes, but this is the Berlanti Supergirl, so powerful men need not apply, and if they do, they are purely backseat occupants of the events.
Probably.
Oh, boo fricking hoo.
It's funny how, the bajillions of TV shows and movies where men did everything exciting and worthwhile, hardly anybody thought to go, "Hey, where are the women? What the hell is with this all male heroes shit?" I'd say a little turnabout is long overdue, and might just begin to redress the balance if men were sidelined in every narrative from now until, say, the turn of the next century.
I think women noticed their continuous poor underrepresentation.
Balance is balance....you can't make up for the past by unbalancing things in the present.... smh...
There is no balance.
This is war.
This is war.
So, your "turnabout is long overdue" and "if men were sidelined in every narrative from now until, say, the turn of the next century" advocates the opposite of seeking equality: misandry. Embracing the habits of the oppressor defeats any mission to achieve equality.
What utter nonsense.
The false premise there is that sexism is a thing of the past. American media is still overwhelmingly dominated by white male leads and majority-male casts; we're a long way from eliminating that imbalance. (Not to mention the male dominance and abuse and marginalization of women in the entertainment industry, politics, news, business, etc., which is only just now starting to be addressed in the open and counteracted.) The problem with too many men in our culture is that they see anything more than a 20-25% female presence as unbalanced in favor of women. When you're used to having an unfair advantage, equality feels like oppression.
As a WASP straight cis male, I'm pretty much the personification of the "oppressor," and one who presumably stands to suffer most in the dystopian nightmare of reverse discrimination so many of my ilk rail against in their desire -- no, not for equality as claimed, but to hang on to the imbalance and unearned primacy we've considered our birthright for so long.
And yet, stories where women take the lead don't scare or threaten me a bit. Funny, that. In fact, thanks to that "straight cis male" part, I rather love women, and find watching awesome women doing awesome things thoroughly enjoyable. If I should experience some unaccountable desire to watch grunting hairy dudes do stuff instead, I've only got pretty much every movie and TV show ever made heretofore to scratch that inexplicable itch.
That is an overly general statement.
In many instances you can ameliorate the consequences of past imbalances by "unbalancing" the current status quo.
In some contexts the accurate term for this process is "justice."
People who enjoy benefits that have accrued from past misdeeds often loathe the prospect of justice.
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Ditto. I feel sort of lucky that I was a social outcast as a kid, because it meant I never learned the habit of assuming I was entitled to anything by virtue of my identity, and I tended to identify with the outsider's point of view. Even as a kid, when I'd see so many TV shows like Star Trek and Barney Miller where there were ethnically diverse supporting casts but the guy at the top was always a white man, I found it tiresome -- I wanted someone else to get a turn as the leader, just for variety's sake as well as fairness's sake.
And of course, on a shallower level, I feel the same way you do -- I like watching (and writing) stories about women simply because they're more attractive to me. The majority of my original fiction centers on female (and nonwhite) leads, just because I don't think there are enough of them elsewhere. The cool thing about being a writer is that if I don't see enough of something in the stories I read and watch, I can just tell my own. (I've got an upcoming book reprinting 7 of my published stories plus one new story. Only 2 out of the 8 stories have male leads, and only one has a white lead, who's a bisexual woman.)
How is that any different from the thousands of other superhero (male and female) stories where it would make total sense for Superman, Spider-Man, the X-Men, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, etc. to show up for some massive city, state, country, or world threatening event and yet they are apparently preoccupied with something more important during that issue, episode, or film?
It's a basic feature of comic stories that certain teams and heroes, even ones that frequently interact with each other or share common jurisdictions, will often sit out certain events for undetermined or vaguely explained reasons so that the story can either make our hero face the crisis alone or have to team up with someone unexpected, even former adversaries.
1) Things aren't balanced in favor of women. Not even close.
2) Making up for that imbalance is not oppressing men or treating them unfairly.
3) There's no indication that this is part of any concerted agenda to balance anything (even though it would be fine if it was), just a chance to have a novel team up situation.
4) How many hundreds or thousands of "All Guy" superhero team up comics/episodes/films have there been and still continue to be (including in Berlanti shows)? Do you complain about all of those as well?
5) It's only one episode, so all this manufactured drama (especially like below) is ridiculous.
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Getting upset about female empowerment on a show called SuperGIRL is honestly the most pathetic thing I can think of. You’d have to be actively seeking it out so you can complain. It’s like watching Wonder Woman and crying because a man didn’t save her. Is your ego and identity so fragile that not having your gender constantly praised and treated as superior upsets you?
MRAs are just spoiled little boys. They’ve been catered to their whole lives and now that others are being given a fraction of what they had, they cry and complain about how it’s unfair. Keep crying, it’s why no one respects you and why you don’t get the attention from women you arrogantly feel you’re entitled to.
Not as much as your post adding absolutely nothing to the discussion.
In film, that is the result of a production not being able to use characters (or more to the point actors only contracted for certain films), which has nothing to do with the original post observing the common treatment of male characters.
The Realist was not talking about balance when posting:
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He's calling for deliberate, discriminatory (misandrist) action. There's no way to spin that--or similar posts in this thread where this matter is concerned.
Grow up, kiddo.
No suprise that you completely leap over that original post's point, and resort to the usual flaming.
You had a point?
Actually, I get that you’re convinced that everything is an attack on you. But my comment was directed at the general direction of the thread, not you in particular. But yeah, complaining about the treatment of men in a society based around men having all the power is pathetic. Especially when directed at shows where a woman is the main character and it revolves around female empowerment because they’re extremely rare. There are plenty of shows about men that’s all about stroking the male ego. So seeking out the minority of shows to complain is a waste of time. If you somehow see that directed at yourself, that’s just your problem.
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I know you like to think you're in control of every discussion and set the parameters of what can be talked about or not, but I don't have to get into your hobby horse of the mistweatment of po innocent men if I can refute his point with simple facts like superheroes don't show up for major world shattering events in their own backyard all the time.
And it's a BS copout to say it's always a rights issue, because I said "comics, TV, and film", not just film, and even in film this can easily be demonstrated every time there's a standalone Marvel movie where there's some big threat and its odd that Tony Stark didn't come zooming in to help.
Here's what he said:
"I'd say a little turnabout is long overdue, and might just begin to redress the balance if men were sidelined in every narrative from now until, say, the turn of the next century."
The first part is key, and what he is actually expecting/hoping to happen. The second part is obviously hyperbole and not going to realistically occur and was just talking about what it would take to make up for the existing massive imbalance in depictions of male vs. female superheroes in the past.
I'm not your kiddo, sport, and you're not qualified to tell anyone to grow up as long as you're throwing a whiny tantrum about a single episode of a show called Supergirl having an all girl team-up from your plywood pulpit at the He-Man Womun Haters Club.
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