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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 3

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Locutus of Bored said:
And it's a BS copout to say it's always a rights issue, because I said "comics, TV, and film", not just film
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This is a thread and discussion about a TV series, which in the broad sense, is covered by any film reference.

and even in film this can easily be demonstrated every time there's a standalone Marvel movie where there's some big threat and its odd that Tony Stark didn't come zooming in to help.
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...which happens for the reason already posted: actor contracts. That's why Downey, Jr was nowhere to be seen during the chaos in The Winter Soldier, even though his character was a target of Project Insight. That has nothing to do with the reasons the other member made his observation about the use of male characters on Supergirl.


Here's what he said:

"I'd say a little turnabout is long overdue, and might just begin to redress the balance if men were sidelined in every narrative from now until, say, the turn of the next century."

The first part is key, and what he is actually expecting/hoping to happen.
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...and your opinion of his hope is...?


I'm not your kiddo, sport, and you're not qualified to tell anyone to grow up as long as you're throwing a whiny tantrum about a single episode of a show called Supergirl having an all girl team-up from your plywood pulpit at the He-Man Womun Haters Club.
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You are being childish with the kind of flame posts that were novel for message boards in 1999, but tiresome in 2018.
 
TREK_GOD_1 said:
...which happens for the reason already posted: actor contracts. That's why Downey, Jr was nowhere to be seen during the chaos in The Winter Soldier, even though his character was a target of Project Insight. That has nothing to do with the reasons the other member made his observation about the use of male characters on Supergirl.
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My point was, in-universe it's an established phenomenon that superheroes are frequently absent from major events you would expect them to show up at, which goes precisely to his issue, also made from an in-universe standpoint, that it would be strange to not have Superman et. al. show up and instead to ally with three superpowered women.
...and your opinion of his hope is...?
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Who gives a flying fuck? I'm not him and I'm not required to answer for his opinions. Nor do I know if he actually was expressing it as a hope, or just as a factual accounting of the existing imbalance up to now and what it would take to rectify it. I don't seriously think he doesn't ever want to see male superheroes again until 2100. That sounds like hyperbole to make a point to me, but then again, you're throwing a whiny temper tantrum about one episode featuring a girl team like that somehow means men are being victimized, so hyperbole might just seem normal to you.
You are being childish with the kind of flame posts that were novel for message boards in 1999, but tiresome in 2018.
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And you are being childish with your whining and misogynistic with your backwards attitude that was standard in 1959 but way past tiresome and outdated in 2018.
 
I am surprised no one has posted this. The President of the CW revealed that production issues lead to a brief halt in production but will have no negative effect on the show's future.

"We had a moment where they had some production issues, (Ones that predated and were independent of Andrew Kreisberg’s removal as co-showrunner, sources tell TVLine). At the same time, we thought, ‘This is a good place put put Legends,’ knowing that iZombie would go behind it at the end of February. It also allowed us to extend into the summer, to give us more original programming, which is actually a good thing for us. The fans of Supergirl should not be worried in any way, shape or form. We are big believers in the show, and big believers in Melissa [Benoist] and the direction of the show."

https://supergirl.tv/cw-boss-confident-in-supergirl-s-future#comments
 
Locutus of Bored said:
My point was, in-universe it's an established phenomenon that superheroes are frequently absent from major events you would expect them to show up at, which goes precisely to his issue, also made from an in-universe standpoint, that it would be strange to not have Superman et. al. show up and instead to ally with three superpowered women.
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The difference here is that on SG, most of the series conflicts take place in or around that one city; granted, Superman does not live there (but could fly there within a few seconds if necessary), but superpowered J'onn and stranded Mon-El not only live there, but are both stationed at the same headquarters, and are involved to varying degrees in the plot. So, if the member's original concern rings true, how is the series going to logically explain away their absence when they are at ground zero of the plot / support of SG?

Who gives a flying fuck? I'm not him and I'm not required to answer for his opinions.
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But you were invested enough to jump in, attempting to explain his opinion. You cannot have it both ways.


I don't seriously think he doesn't ever want to see male superheroes again until 2100. That sounds like hyperbole to make a point to me, but then again, you're throwing a whiny temper tantrum about one episode featuring a girl team like that somehow means men are being victimized, so hyperbole might just seem normal to you.
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Exaggeration and lies do not help your emotionally charged position. The point stands: The Realist was advocating discrimination as a remedy to that used against female characters. You can try to write it off as hyperbole, but he would not be the first to express that desire.

And you are being childish with your whining and misogynistic with your backwards attitude that was standard in 1959 but way past tiresome and outdated in 2018.
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More flames and lies. I guess that's what you do, instead of addressing real issues in any mature manner.
 
Kai "the spy" said:
So, anybody else think Brainiac 5 looks like the secret child of Christopher Walken and Gwendoline Christie?
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I don't know about his resemblance to those performers, but in that short clip, he seems sort of non-threatening in appearance, which is good (if he's actually that way) because the Silver/Bronze/Modern Age comic version was always illustrated as sort of a consciously unassuming being (the intent to be the opposite of the original Brainiac).
 
Supergirl--
"Legion of Superheroes"

Kara/SG: So, Supergirl lives up to some point in the future, but you will notice Mon-El says nothing about Alex, or anyone else...

Reign: I would have hoped she was given more than the growling baddie act.

Alex and Winn: They must be clueless to be surprised at J'onn wanting to use Kryptonite-based weapons.

J'onn: J'onn can deliver a punch to send Reign flying, but he's not enough to fight her head on?

Mon-El: His protecting the future / inaction made perfect sense (you would think Winn, Alex and the rest would get that from watching sci-fi TV series...), but he goes back on that. Oh well, so much for the future.

...and he--superpowered--cannot break out of an ice-sphere because...?.

Hoping Mon-El is not walking out on a long-term life he has just to please Kara.

Braniac: As I thought, this version of Braniac is unassuming and weird, but a bit too much like early Star Trek: The Next Generation Data, where he references self or is "in his head" a bit much, as if he's still trying to establish himself around humans.

James & Lena: So J'onn gave this "relationship" a boost...for now. I still think it will have a bad end.

Thomas Coville: Stretching the nutjob / antagonist bit.

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Not so impressive a start to a Legion sub plot and/or spin-off, as this collection of Legion members don't have that ping-ponging personality and otherworldliness like the version from Superman: The Animated Series version (season three's "New Kids in Town"), and certainly not as visually exciting. If any form of a Legion ever returns, they need costumes at least as comic-booky as Supergirl's

Still waiting to see the contrast between zealot Coville and anyone of real faith.

Bon Jovi references, and the music?. No...just no. That crap does not enhance any scene. Ever.

About time Alex gets more than a scratch going up against superior beings.

Streaky...there's that.

For a moment, I thought Kara was going to cozy up to Braniac, and while that's a decades-old plot from the comics, specifically Adventure Comics and Superboy and the Legion of Superheroes, this version of Braniac is--as mentioned earlier--a bit like early Data, and someone else, which makes the idea of his being a furute romantic partner for Kara seem a bit too much like--

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So far, this Reign plot is head and shoulders above the "Crisis" crossover.

GRADE: B
 
Commander Richard said:
A shame to see Coville become a turncoat.
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I was a little disappointed by that too -- I thought he was very interesting as this unstable, off-kilter, but nonetheless insightful sounding board for Kara -- but it actually occurred to me he could be deceiving Reign, and see himself as still secretly working on Kara's behalf.

OTOH, he's certainly deluded and obsessive enough, and sufficiently immersed in Kryptonian mythology and prophecy, that he could see Kara as having genuinely failed her appointed task, and therefore switched his allegiance to Reign.

Either way works in character, really.
 
Commander Richard said:
A shame to see Coville become a turncoat.
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Yeah, but as it stands, he's a zealot trying to justify his beliefs no matter what route gets him to said justification. He's no man of real faith, so he's beyond concepts of good and evil...unless this is series misdirection, and being an "insider", will (ultimately) provide the key to the antagonists'' destruction.
 
Great episode from top to bottom. * Some * highlights:
- Jesse Rath as Brainiac 5. David Rappaport Casting hasn't made a misstep yet in their casting choices for Supergirl, but this was the most inspired casting choice they've made yet, and the writers then followed suit by giving him the perfect personality; I also love that we got hints of a potential love connection between him and Kara, which, for all that I loved the Karamel relationship last year, would make me all kinds of happy

- Streaky; I love that the writers found a way to insert one of the "Superpets" into the story without stretching the credibility of the world they've created, and tied their introduction of him to Kara AS Kara, not Kara as Supergirl

- More Worldkillers; I love the concept of the Worldkillers as presented in the New 52 Supergirl comics, so the potential of getting to see more of them, or at least characters who are somewhat based on them, is really exciting. Plus, this "Worldkiller quest" means we get more of Chad Lowe being awesome, which is always good

- Legion mentions; I love the name-dropping of Ayla Ranzz and Winath, and am hoping we'll actually get to see her (and her brother) before the season's out, because we still have more Legion members who haven't been woken up yet

- Legion mystery; I'm really intrigued by the hints the writers dropped about the mission that sent the Legion back in time, and I can't wait to see where it goes and what else we learn

- J'onn as Kara; I love the awkwardness that ensues whenever J'onn has to impersonate Kara, especially if he's being asked to impersonate her for something that is out of his personal comfort zone, and Melissa is really great at impersonating David Harewood's gruffness as J'onn, so this was a win-win (no pun intended) all the way around

All in all, this was a wonderful return for Supergirl, and I can't wait to see where the show goes from here with this "Worldkiller hunt", the potentiality of a Kara/Brainy romance, and the tantalizing hints they dropped about the Legion's mission in the past and how it relates to both their future and the future of Earth as a whole, amongst other things.
 
DigificWriter said:
J'onn as Kara; I love the awkwardness that ensues whenever J'onn has to impersonate Kara, especially if he's being asked to impersonate her for something that is out of his personal comfort zone, and Melissa is really great at impersonating David Harewood's gruffness as J'onn, so this was a win-win (no pun intended) all the way around
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Paradoxically, Benoist is getting better at impersonating Harewood, which means that J'onn is getting worse at impersonating Kara.


Yay, Streaky!

From context, I assume that was a Bon Jovi song the Legion ship was blaring?
 
I wonder to what extent the writers' choice of what popular music had survived to the 31st century was shaped by what music clearances they were able to get.
 
Based on what we learned tonight, I think Mon-El brought the song to the 31st Century with him, along with a lot of other pieces of knowledge about Earth culture.
 
^ The point I was making is that "Living on a Prayer" didn't "survive to the 31st Century", but was brought there - and introduced to its inhabitants - from the 21st.
 
It took some time to get accustomed to seeing Jesse Rath as Brainiac 5, especially after watching him for years as the pale skinned humanoid/Castithan on SyFy's Defiance.

If there are other Worldkillers, what makes Reign so special that she was chosen to terrorize National City?
 
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