• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2

In the National City criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: the DEO who investigate crime; and the flying, super-strong aliens who fight the offenders. These are their stories.
Ching-ching
 
That's how they interpreted the footage because they already knew that's what actually happened. It was ambiguous enough to make it look like Guardian just stepped out of frame for a few moments (maybe to get the machine gun?) and came back.
Ok, I couldn't remember what exactly what you could see in the video, I just remembered them saying that.
 
He already threatened to incinerate Metallo, but nobody noticed because he was smiling I guess... :shrug:
I saw a gif about that exact moment weeks ago.

tumblr_ofh67eyReR1uptodho1_r1_500.gif
 
I'd have taken the incinerate thing figuratively coming from a Superman...a mechanical-voiced robot threatening to disintegrate in X seconds, that I'd take literally.
 
From a story-point of view, this is a very important point in weighing the relative rightness or wrongness of the vigilantie's actions. The writers should have been more clear. Instead, they used a cliched term ('gotten off on a technicality') to avoid the moral debate entirely. It was lazy writing.

Indeed.

Additionally, the series wastes no time jumping on various soapboxes of choice, but the entire vigilante issue is one that speaks to the heart of the series--not only with The Guardian (and one-time villain Phillip), but Supergirl, as she has no true legal authority to act as law enforcement according to city or state law. Winn even admits he supports the idea of vigilantes, so in a strong sense, this kind of behavior only strengthens the Cadmus campaign, as there would be nothing more dangerous than an alien with no genuine allegiance to earth acting as an enforcer of law. This is a theme explored for decades in comics, but its avoided like the plague (where Supergirl is concerned) on this show.
 
Occurred to me this week that James probably has Winn in the van telling him where everything is because he can't see shit out of that helmet.
 
So if they aren't doing Jeremiah as the Cyborg, perhaps we'll get him as the Eradicator instead? Guardian (Steel), Mon El (punk ass Superboy), Hank Henshaw (Cyborg) and Dean Cain (Eradicator) anyone?
 
New sneak peak for Monday's Supergirl ep, "Medusa":
To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.
 
I so fucking don't care that Cavill's Superman is scarier and less lovable than the old versions, and I've been reading about Clark for almost sixty years. Cavill/Clark is great.

I don't understand how Henry Cavill Superman can kill Zod and he's a cold-blooded killer, but Supergirl can kill an alien parasite and its human host at the same time and it's no big deal. :shrug:

Tom Welling Clark's body count on Smallville has to be in the hundreds.
 
I don't understand how Henry Cavill Superman can kill Zod and he's a cold-blooded killer, but Supergirl can kill an alien parasite and its human host at the same time and it's no big deal. :shrug:

I'm already on the record as not approving of the decision to have Supergirl kill the Parasite, because it might not have been necessary -- why not try freezing it, since the original alien parasite had been contained by the Arctic ice? I also feel she should've been affected by it more, felt more grief about being forced to make that choice -- which is the one part of the Man of Steel sequence that I did approve of.

But there is a difference of context. It's been established that Supergirl has a policy of not killing, so this was at least presented as a rare exception. The problem with Snyder's approach is his assumption (voiced in interviews) that Superman would have no reason to be against killing unless he'd done it at least once and decided he didn't like it. Which is just totally stupid. The problem is that it's the resolution to Superman's first real battle, and so it taints him from the start, and makes it hard to trust that Snyder could handle him well (and indeed, Snyder handled him far, far more ineptly in BvS, reducing him to little more than a plot device). It also comes off as a defeat of his philosophy, because he lets the villain's worldview win. And that makes him seem weak right off the bench, especially since he's already spent the whole movie relying on male authority figures to tell him what to do and has thus come off as passive throughout. With Supergirl, we've seen her more hopeful philosophy triumph already, seen her commit to it and resist succumbing to the expediency of more destructive methods. Which is why I think it was a mistake to have her kill the Parasite, but at least it's possible to surmise that the danger must've been really profound if she was able to conclude that this was the only way. And sure, you could argue that about Zod too, but MoS's Superman didn't have that prior context to give us reason to trust that his judgment was sound.
 
I don't understand how Henry Cavill Superman can kill Zod and he's a cold-blooded killer, but Supergirl can kill an alien parasite and its human host at the same time and it's no big deal. :shrug:

I don't get it myself.
Even more so, in Man of Steel that death had weight and a storytelling purpose, having Superman finally break away from his Kryptonian heritage he spent the first half of the movie searching for and embrace Earth as his home and himself as its protector.

In Supergirl it just happened and everyone forgot it by the end of the episode...
 
I'm still more concerned by Kara's lack of reaction to failing to save those Secret Service agents from fiery deaths a few episodes back. I know she's generally a happy and chipper person, but her 'I met the President! Yay!' reaction was just weird.
 
I don't get it myself.
Even more so, in Man of Steel that death had weight and a storytelling purpose, having Superman finally break away from his Kryptonian heritage he spent the first half of the movie searching for and embrace Earth as his home and himself as its protector.

In Supergirl it just happened and everyone forgot it by the end of the episode...

Unless on a soapbox, the Supergirl series rarely explores consequences of serious actions--not of SG acting as a vigilante, not when people die (and her never feeling anything about in one way or another), or much of anything else. Oh, they tried the Guardian blamed for being killer plot...which was cleaned up inside of 42 minutes. In Man of Steel, as you point out, death had impact on the characters and story--it was not there just to give the protagonist something to do or work around. The entire concept of death and accountability for it was one of the key messages of the film, and it continued in Dawn of Justice. There is no sense, action or reaction of that in Supergirl, which makes the action and/or violence come and go with no lead character consideration lasting longer than a video game. It happens, then its gone.

I'm hoping the Cadmus plot forces SG to get her hands dirty by choice and duty--then weigh those actions against the cheery image she sells. That not only develops the lead character, but makes the world around her appear to be one where things (actions) do not vanish at the end of the episode with a smile and its off to the next story.

I'm still more concerned by Kara's lack of reaction to failing to save those Secret Service agents from fiery deaths a few episodes back. I know she's generally a happy and chipper person, but her 'I met the President! Yay!' reaction was just weird.

That was more about the showrunners sending a message about what they believed was going to be the result of the real U.S. elections than anything else, which was more important that having her react to the deaths of anyone else. Backfire of the decade on so many levels.
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top