Yeah, it just occurred to me last week, "Hey, we never seen Noonan's anymore!" And that was a set, not a location, so they could've rebuilt it. I guess they didn't have the soundstage space for both it and the dive bar.
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Yeah, it just occurred to me last week, "Hey, we never seen Noonan's anymore!" And that was a set, not a location, so they could've rebuilt it. I guess they didn't have the soundstage space for both it and the dive bar.
Was the van already there, or was it pulling up in the background as Mon-El stopped? Either way, its fairly clear he was being stalked.
While there are several plots that could be described as "awful writing", the point here was to capture Mon-El as a shock tease for the next few episodes. Honestly, he could have entered an old-time phone booth, and the bottom suddenly drop to an underground level (Get Smart), and the result would be the same.
When the producers decided to use aliens as their boulder on roller skates--heading-downhill--comment on immigration in America. The series seems like it is (now) taking some of its cues Alien Nation more than a straight superhero series.
I kind of like it.
This is a world that has had a Superman and all the crazyness that involves for over a decade. So at this point I totally buy that Earth turns out to be some backwater dumping ground for the galaxy's refugees and cast-offs.
Maybe we happen to be in neutral territory or we're near the only mapped hyperspace route that goes around the Thanigarian & Gordanian Empires, so everyone fleeing the conflict zone or just trying to avoid it ends up coming this direction sooner or later. Most keep on going, others run out of fuel or their ships break down and they make for the only habitable planet in range that isn't a wasteland.
No question they've quietly shifted away from the prison escapee plot, but this season was always going to be something of a soft reboot, what with the change in shooting location.
Traditionally, flight rings don't do FTL...they have Legion Cruisers for that.
Going in to this episode blind I thought they were going full on with The Thing until it was revealed to be the singular Parasite. We saw the wolf and the Norwegians so maybe there's another organism at Kurt Russell's camp for the follow-up episode.
I love how blissfully Mon-El approaches getting what he needs in life without any moral compass. He does put value in having a job though...I won't make any political comments here, well except about Daxamites.
So do blue-skinned aliens just walk the streets of National City? Seems a bit odd given what we've seen. He was wearing a suit though so maybe that's enough to get people to not notice.
I thought Guardian actually looked kinda, dare I say it, cool? Robocop, schmomocop, I thought he looked decent. I don't know if they needed to bother with all the lead, a pair of glasses would conceal his identity well enough. Does the public know about the X-Ray vision and the weakness to lead? That'd be a detail I'd keep to myself and if so that would narrow down the identity of Guardian.
Speaking of identity, it's kind of nuts for Kara to frequent the alien bar if she's trying not to out herself.
Speaking of outing, I find I don't care one iota about Alex's coming out. I'm not offended by it or anything, I just don't care,
I love how blissfully Mon-El approaches getting what he needs in life without any moral compass. He does put value in having a job though...I won't make any political comments here, well except about Daxamites.
So do blue-skinned aliens just walk the streets of National City? Seems a bit odd given what we've seen. He was wearing a suit though so maybe that's enough to get people to not notice.
I thought Guardian actually looked kinda, dare I say it, cool? Robocop, schmomocop, I thought he looked decent. I don't know if they needed to bother with all the lead, a pair of glasses would conceal his identity well enough. Does the public know about the X-Ray vision and the weakness to lead? That'd be a detail I'd keep to myself and if so that would narrow down the identity of Guardian.
Speaking of identity, it's kind of nuts for Kara to frequent the alien bar if she's trying not to out herself.
Speaking of outing, I find I don't care one iota about Alex's coming out. I'm not offended by it or anything, I just don't care,
That's what the alien amnesty bill made possible. As long as he's registered, he can do that now. Although he does run the risk of persecution from hate groups.
It's hardly a secret. Lead has been used to shield people against x-rays since the 1920s. Anyone who's ever had medical or dental x-rays taken has worn a lead apron as protection. The reason the comics established that lead blocked x-ray vision in the first place was because it was already common knowledge that lead blocked x-rays in real life.
As for knowledge of x-ray vision itself, given that Superman has been acting openly as a hero for a dozen years and has been friendly with the press, I'm sure the public knows about his basic power suite. He could've done a number of public feats with his x-ray vision, like locating an earthquake fault that was about to rupture or finding survivors in a collapsed building.
I hope not. The shameless rip of The Thing should be a distant memory ASAP.
That was done to shield him from Supergirl, because he (and Winn) knew she would attempt to learn his true identity.
You're right--it does not make sense. Not only does she have a secret identity to protect, but she has nothing in common with the usual, Star Wars cantina-esque denizens of that dive, and is so well acclimated with human culture, that its not like she's there out of some "outsider" feeling.
Get ready for that to be a center stage issue--or as in this episode--deliver lines about other situations that are really talking about Alex.
Ah, makes sense.
Well, of course, but I don't know that it would be known that it could block "x-ray vision".
Perhaps but it would be a good one to keep under wraps especially with an exploitable weakness. I'm not sure the public would be completely comfortable with aliens having that particular powerset as well. Anyway just musing, you're probably right that it's common knowledge.
That was a (admittedly little) joke about the efficacy of glasses as a disguise, I get why he was trying to keep his identity secret.
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It always bothered me that Superman revealed this weakness to Lois Lane when she interviewed him in SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE. And, sure enough, Lex Luthor exploits this weakness a few scenes later . ....
So I guess SUPERGIRL is just carrying on the tradition . ..
This was the first episode that I thought wasn't all around great.
My big issue was the handling of Parasite. I've really like way they've handled political and social issues in the past, but this episodes whole climate change thing just didn't work for me. I think it is an issue that deserves to be addressed, but they did it here just didn't work for me. I was also disappointed they appear to be doing him as just a one off villain, he's a fairly significant villain in the comics, so I was really hoping he'd be available to pop back up occaisionally.
The stuff with Mon-El and the difference in his attitude and Kara's was pretty good. It felt pretty realistic to have a character with powers who didn't just instantly start using them heroically.
I was little surprised when we saw the alien he was threatening, I think his name was Brian, just walking around out in the city looking like an alien. I don't think we've seen that before, but I think it would be kind of fun if that became a regular thing, with random aliens just walking around out on the street, or in crowd scenes.
James as Guardian was really cool, and I liked the way they handled his relationship with Winn. It was nice to see Winn getting to do more than just sit as his computer.
The whole coming out thing with Alex seemed to be really well handled and, from the perspective of a straight person with no first or second hand expedience with the situation, seemed very believable. I was sad that Maggie turned her down, but her reasons made sense.
My big issue was the handling of Parasite. I've really like way they've handled political and social issues in the past, but this episodes whole climate change thing just didn't work for me. I think it is an issue that deserves to be addressed, but they did it here just didn't work for me. I was also disappointed they appear to be doing him as just a one off villain, he's a fairly significant villain in the comics, so I was really hoping he'd be available to pop back up occaisionally.
The stuff with Mon-El and the difference in his attitude and Kara's was pretty good. It felt pretty realistic to have a character with powers who didn't just instantly start using them heroically.
I was little surprised when we saw the alien he was threatening, I think his name was Brian, just walking around out in the city looking like an alien. I don't think we've seen that before, but I think it would be kind of fun if that became a regular thing, with random aliens just walking around out on the street, or in crowd scenes.
James as Guardian was really cool, and I liked the way they handled his relationship with Winn. It was nice to see Winn getting to do more than just sit as his computer.
The whole coming out thing with Alex seemed to be really well handled and, from the perspective of a straight person with no first or second hand expedience with the situation, seemed very believable. I was sad that Maggie turned her down, but her reasons made sense.
I don't get the judgmental accusation being thrown at Kara for stopping Mon-el in pursuit of his job.
He's not just making a different career choice, he's becoming a criminal and wasn't J'onn complaining just last week that "aliens behaving badly" were ruining It for the rest of them?
I did like the shout out to Superman's Action Comics #1 cover that we saw when Mon-el caught the car and saved the girl.
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I wonder... now that Maggie's turned Alex down, will that open up a lane for Lena Luthor to pursue a more receptive Danvers sister?
He's not just making a different career choice, he's becoming a criminal and wasn't J'onn complaining just last week that "aliens behaving badly" were ruining It for the rest of them?
I did like the shout out to Superman's Action Comics #1 cover that we saw when Mon-el caught the car and saved the girl.
http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113706/5390482-6697421143-action.jpeg
I wonder... now that Maggie's turned Alex down, will that open up a lane for Lena Luthor to pursue a more receptive Danvers sister?
Debt collection (for a Bookie) is not criminal.
Mon-El is a sentient reminder post-it.
But then, if he's not willing to break legs, he's not going to keep his job for very long.
Mon-El is a sentient reminder post-it.
But then, if he's not willing to break legs, he's not going to keep his job for very long.
Beating people up for money is and I imagine we are talking about illegal bookies anyway.
Because its not her call to determine how an alien uses his powers. Moreover, she's constantly revealing her true, specist (or racist) feelings toward Mon-El & his people, so anything that comes from her mouth about him only reveals her hypocrisy (she does not judge other aliens in that way).
Those who despise aliens need no excuse for their feelings, so everyone acting like some model idea of a well behaved alien is not going to do much in changing minds.
I purposely said that he was not going to get rough with people, and therefore lose his job.
Mon-El is so strong and invulnerable that he can just ask people to give him money that they owe.
Gambling is illegal.
Asking people to honor their debts is not illegal.
Punching them in the nose is illegal.
In the scene he was clearly hitting the guy, didn't the alien guy have blood running down his nose?
Mon-El is not a brain trust.
He's a bit of a lemon.
No, Brian's nose was not bleeding.
But yes, Mon-El was punching Brian.
Which is unnecessary considering how easy it is to intimidate someone when you can leap over tall buildings in a single bound.
Debt collection is not enforcement, and even debt collection for a bookie can be done legally if you chose to ask for money without resulting to assault or murder.
He's a bit of a lemon.
No, Brian's nose was not bleeding.
But yes, Mon-El was punching Brian.
Which is unnecessary considering how easy it is to intimidate someone when you can leap over tall buildings in a single bound.
Debt collection is not enforcement, and even debt collection for a bookie can be done legally if you chose to ask for money without resulting to assault or murder.
I'd say he's a Marvel, Lad.He's a bit of a lemon.
IDK - the old 'idiot ball' was STRONG in this episode:
- Kara goes to an alien bar (also frequented by humans) and accepts and takes a drink that the Bartender states in public "would kill humans" <--- Yep, way to guard that secret identity.
- Because Supergirl is a bit drunk, Jonn ops to take a plane instead of flying out himself (isn't he supposed to be at the SAME power level as Superman/Supergirl in most comic book versions of the Martian Manhunter character.
- You just brought a LONE survivor back from a situation where it's possible a DEADLY virus was unleashed; yet you let him just walk out having the option to decline a 24 hour observation period? (IE was the Artic base a Government facility or not? And if so, they should have full authority to detain personnel for medical reasons.)
-Jonn has a VIDEO of what happened at the Artic base where he sees how the Parasite drains energy/lifeforce from people but when he and Supergirl first confront the merged creature they BOTH decide to go hand to hand with it??
- Kara goes to an alien bar (also frequented by humans) and accepts and takes a drink that the Bartender states in public "would kill humans" <--- Yep, way to guard that secret identity.
- Because Supergirl is a bit drunk, Jonn ops to take a plane instead of flying out himself (isn't he supposed to be at the SAME power level as Superman/Supergirl in most comic book versions of the Martian Manhunter character.
- You just brought a LONE survivor back from a situation where it's possible a DEADLY virus was unleashed; yet you let him just walk out having the option to decline a 24 hour observation period? (IE was the Artic base a Government facility or not? And if so, they should have full authority to detain personnel for medical reasons.)
-Jonn has a VIDEO of what happened at the Artic base where he sees how the Parasite drains energy/lifeforce from people but when he and Supergirl first confront the merged creature they BOTH decide to go hand to hand with it??
He took the jet so he could take Alex with him. More comfortable for her than being flown up to the Arctic in Martian Manhunter's arms, plus it meant she could bring weapons/instruments with her as well.
I can't disagree about the other points, thought.
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