Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2

[doylem1]

I take it Supergirl getting drunk was down to some alien version of alcohol ? as it was stated by herself that Alcohol doesn't affect Kryptonians. i think this was mentioned in episode 2 when Alex asked about which wine to offer Clark and Kara said he doesn't drink even though it doesn't affect them/him.

Sorry Uk is running 2 Episodes behind the U.S

 

[Mudd]

Environmental-activists-gone-rogue as villains of any kind are w-a-a-y past their expiration date and are a lazy and insulting trope.

They've become worse that the 70s/80s standby of "the guy's killing people for no reason because he's a traumatized 'Nam vet."

If all of those show business writers who clutter up Twitter with their progressive political insights actually gave a fuck about the content of their work we'd never see another one of these.

 

[Christopher]

I take it Supergirl getting drunk was down to some alien version of alcohol ?

Yes. When M'gann served it, she said it was some kind of Aldebaranian liquor (probably not Aldebaran whiskey, because that's a Star Trek thing) that was deadly to humans but would probably give Kara and Mon-El a good buzz, or words to that effect.

 

[DigificWriter]

M'gann called it Alderbaranian rum.

 

[dahj]

Mon-El:"What if that's not me." & "Everything YOU stand for." That was the most interesting line of the episode, as fans and creators often assume anyone character with powers would just run to the spandex at the first chance--and that cannot be the case at all times.

Except if they're in Central City, because everyone with powers there decides to become a villain.

* Yes, Kara trying to scan James' costume with her X-Ray vision was a bit forward and invasive, but it again plays into the character not being perfect

She already x-rayed two couples having sex, so privacy apparently isn't a concern for her.

Also another Berlanti show that's going to drag out a relationship for stupid reasons.

I disagree, Alex's coming out is probably the most realistic and well written relationship storyline in the Arrowverse. Both Alex's and Maggie's(and Kara's) reactions ring genuine. Just because it isn't "I'm gay, you're gay so let's immediately be gay together and kiss in a sexy way so that our male viewers can enjoy it" doesn't mean it's "dragged out."

Environmental-activists-gone-rogue as villains of any kind are w-a-a-y past their expiration date and are a lazy and insulting trope.

Also, this is probably the worst possible time to give climate change deniers any such fodder...

 

[Marc]

She already x-rayed two couples having sex, so privacy apparently isn't a concern for her.

wasn't it more super hearing for one of those when she was trying to locate Mon-el rather than deliberately seeking to invade their privacy?

Plus I would have expected after the first time and what it revealled, it wouldn't have been on her to do again list

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

That was probably the dumbest scene of the episode (which is saying a lot, given there were more than a few this time around). CADMUS's entire plot to capture Mon-El relied on him stopping to try to help a homeless guy with a cough? When for pretty much his entire time on Earth he's been a self-centered jackass? And then it's just a cattle prod that does the job? Wh... just what?!

Cadmus agents were looking for Mon-El; since he's wandering around exposing himself to the public, it was just a matter of time before he was captured. The weapon was not the standard cattle prod. Do you think Cadmus would rely on a tool any random person can buy?

It seems like they're really going all out on social commentary issues this season and some of it is starting to get a little preachy.

A little? Of this series' faults, the one that earns the most criticism is the aggressive, heavy-handed and immature social and political commentary. This is is the same series that took several swipes at Trump (via surrogates in plot and dialogue) because the showrunners were so certain of a Clinton victory, only to have it blow up in their faces in spectacular fashion last week. Add the rest of their preaching (immigration, climate change, etc.), and as you see, fans are finally calling the series out on its beating-you-over-the-head soapbox-ing.

I will say though that the Guardian storyline might be the best thing to happen to Winn. Winn finally has something to do instead of making cracks behind a desk. Hopefully it works out for the best.

Agreed.

I liked that Kara's ingrained prejudices manifested themselves again in the form of her reaction to finding out that Mon-El's "job" was using his powers as a 'heavy' because it showed yet again that she's not a perfect character and does have her flaws, one of which is being very judgmental of people and expecting them to live up to the same standards that she does

...and once again, she gets to stand in judgement over everyone, and she never truly learns her hard line specist beliefs makes her the ultimate hypocrite for someone who claims to be so understanding.

Rule 1 if the enemy can suck the life out of you, don't engage it in hand to hand combat, especially when you have heat vision and Ice/Freeze Breathe.

Yeah, but the story had to present her as believing she's a tough punch-up artist, so common sense--i.e. not fighting someone you know absorbs the energy from a living being--goes out of the window...or the writers needlessly created a false problem she should have avoided.

Also did Supergirl make the parasite absorb NUCLEAR RADIATION and then it blew up...erm Dirty Bomb anyone?

The writers are not friendly with the specifics of how radiation works, or the threat to those around it, particularly what the Parasite absorbed.

 

[Greg Cox]

The weapon was not the standard cattle prod. Do you think Cadmus would rely on a tool any random person can buy?.

Exactly. Given that just last week we saw Cadmus providing high-powered super-weapons to thugs, I think we can assume that they have some pretty extra-ordinary cattle prods as well.

 

[dahj]

I think we can assume that they have some pretty extra-ordinary cattle prods as well.

Probably got them from some alien race that learned a long time ago never to turn their backs on a space cow.

 

[Kahless the Unforgettable]

Cadmus agents were looking for Mon-El; since he's wandering around exposing himself to the public, it was just a matter of time before he was captured. The weapon was not the standard cattle prod. Do you think Cadmus would rely on a tool any random person can buy?

Since that's exactly what it looked like, yes.

And no, their entire plan hinged on him stopping to help a homeless dude with a cough. The van was RIGHT THERE, with Dr. Luthor RIGHT THERE, laying in wait for him to stop and help that man RIGHT THERE. An act he damn near ignored altogether if not for the way he was starting to see the perks of being a good person that very same night.

But nope, they knew right where he was going to be... somehow. They knew he would stop and help... somehow. It was so contrived that it hurt to watch.

Just awful writing all around. They could have come up with countless other much more sensible ways to shanghai Mon-El than that. Hell, a god-damned hooker would have been better bait...

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

At what point did Earth turn into a MiB-esque dumping ground for alien refugees?

For most, if not all of last year I was under the impression that all the alien bad guys Kara was facing were escapees from that prison ship. Now, it seems there's a fairly large existing population of nonhumans living on Earth, to the point that there could be a fight club, underground bar (which seems to have transformed into an ABOVE ground bar in the past couple weeks), and blue guys named Brian who owe money to alien bookies. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of regular transport from Earth to the rest of the universe, so all these people seem to just end up here to stay...

Suddenly swapping the DEO cave for the much more exposed towers is one thing, but it seems that Supergirl's Earth has had a Flashpoint of its own that no one's noticed?

Mark

 

[dahj]

And no, their entire plan hinged on him stopping to help a homeless dude with a cough. The van was RIGHT THERE, with Dr. Luthor RIGHT THERE, laying in wait for him to stop and help that man RIGHT THERE. An act he damn near ignored altogether if not for the way he was starting to see the perks of being a good person that very same night.

That's a silly complaint.
He probably lives there, and the guy acted homeless to have an excuse to just sit and wait for him while looking non-threatening. He would have just stood up and tazed him from the back when he walked to the door.
But he stopped to help so they did it this way...

 

[YellowSubmarine]

So they did both The Thing and Alien, yet there wasn't a single scary scene in the whole episode? That was bizarre. Even more so when I could have gone without the whole main subplot.

 

[Kahless the Unforgettable]

He probably lives there, and the guy acted homeless to have an excuse to just sit and wait for him while looking non-threatening. He would have just stood up and tazed him from the back when he walked to the door.
But he stopped to help so they did it this way...

If that were the case, he wouldn't be coughing so obviously. The entire plan was clearly focused on having him stop to help.

There was also no indication that that was Mon-El's home.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

We only saw what Mon-El did for a living. We don't know if he didn't stop often when he saw people in minor distress off-screen. You don't normally go in a fight against dangerous mutated thing who can crush you into pieces just because someone dared you to do good today. Maybe he was reluctant over the big deal/hero/bravery part of it, not the helping part of it.

Of course, that nearly certainly wasn't the writer's intent, but it almost fits.

Also, what's up with intimidation + beating + debt collecting being treated so lightly?

 

[Christopher]

At what point did Earth turn into a MiB-esque dumping ground for alien refugees?

At the point that they needed a new source of alien characters once Fort Rozz was out of the picture.

For most, if not all of last year I was under the impression that all the alien bad guys Kara was facing were escapees from that prison ship.

Well, with the exception of the White Martian. And J'onn.

Now, it seems there's a fairly large existing population of nonhumans living on Earth, to the point that there could be a fight club, underground bar (which seems to have transformed into an ABOVE ground bar in the past couple weeks),

We saw right at the start that the door was at ground level in an alley. It was "underground" in the metaphorical sense of something secretive and countercultural and/or extralegal.

The idea seems to be that the aliens were always here, but most of them stayed hidden until the amnesty act. It was just the criminals that came out in the open and made trouble, and that was mostly just the Ft. Rozz escapees. Contrary to hatemongering political rhetoric, most illegal immigrants are very law-abiding otherwise, precisely because they don't want to get discovered and deported.

There doesn't seem to be much in the way of regular transport from Earth to the rest of the universe, so all these people seem to just end up here to stay...

Well, that doesn't follow. If a lot of aliens are coming to Earth, then there must be a fair amount of interstellar traffic in one direction, and it would logically have to go in the other direction too. I mean, it's not like they just fell out of the sky.

Remember in "Myriad" last season when Kelex casually mentioned that Superman was offworld? And the very next episode established that Kryptonians can't fly in space under their own power. So Superman must've had some way of traveling in space. Granted, he has a Legion flight ring, which would permit that, but it's also possible that he was, say, contacted by aliens who asked for his help and sent transportation for him.

Plus there are at least two White Martians and one Green Martian on Earth, probably more of the former. They have to have gotten here somehow.

Suddenly swapping the DEO cave for the much more exposed towers is one thing, but it seems that Supergirl's Earth has had a Flashpoint of its own that no one's noticed?

More just a retcon. I'm reminded of when Angel was spun off of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. In BtVS, the premise was that Sunnydale was full of monsters and demons because it sat on the Hellmouth. Implicitly, such things were less common elsewhere. But then Angel moved to Los Angeles for his spinoff, and it turned out the demonic community there was just as large.

 

[Kahless the Unforgettable]

Remember in "Myriad" last season when Kelex casually mentioned that Superman was offworld? And the very next episode established that Kryptonians can't fly in space under their own power. So Superman must've had some way of traveling in space. Granted, he has a Legion flight ring, which would permit that, but it's also possible that he was, say, contacted by aliens who asked for his help and sent transportation for him.

Or he used the ship his dad built for him. Which, you know, is how he typically does it...

 

[cylkoth]

So, should M'gann assume Kara's an alien as she drank an alien beverage that's lethal to humans? And all the other patrons as well, since the neither Kara or Monnie obviously possess any sort of indoor voice... will this bar turn out to be like the DEO where it seems everybody knows Kara is Supergirl?

Uh, do your need a liquor license to sell alien beverages?
Where did the ingredients come from? Does Customs know about it?

 

[Christopher]

So, should M'gann assume Kara's an alien as she drank an alien beverage that's lethal to humans?

M'gann's line when she served it made it clear that she already knew she was serving it to a pair of aliens. Whether she knows that "J'onn's friend" is named Kara Danvers and is also Supergirl is unclear. Although she did meet Supergirl in the fight club.

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

I guess the bar is some sort of Switzerland or Rick's Cafe where anyone can come and it's a don't-ask-don't-tell sort of dive, unless a human cop gets in your face about it. But Sawyer, being a trained observer, should at least figure out eventually that Kara Danvers frequents the place and

And I guess it HAS been above ground all this time. Funny, it seems to have changed a bit since they first introduced it... Must be the lighting. In any case, it's replaced the wholly-human bar/restaurant the CatCo kids used to gather at.