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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2

Why waste what must be extremely rare weapons on something like this?

Do we know they're rare? There seems to be a fair amount of alien immigration to Earth, so there are lines of commerce and communication. Cadmus may have an offworld supplier. (Qward, maybe?)

How are human gangs using alien weapons supposed to have anything to do with alien amnesty in the first place? The status of the immigrants has absolutely no effect on whether those weapons are on Earth or not and real oversight is actually exactly what you need to solve that sort of problem.

Bigots don't base their decisions on rational considerations or facts. There's no way any sane person would believe you could build a 3,200-kilometer-long border wall to keep out Mexican immigrants, and anyone who bothers to check the facts would know that there are currently more Mexicans leaving the US than entering it anyway, and yet an entire presidential campaign this year has been based primarily on advancing the cartoonishly absurd and counterfactual notion that such a thing is possible and necessary. Because it's not about facts and logic, it's about blind hate and irrational fear.
 
^ Exactly. Cadmus and Doctor Luthor are very much representative of the kind of "politics" we're seeing currently, and one of the things that makes their agenda so dangerous is that, on some level, they have the backing of the United States government, much in the same way that one particular candidate's agenda has been backed, on some basic levels, by current and/or former divisions of the government currently.
 
So much for the idea that Supergirl needn't dodge bullets because street crooks won't have access to rare and advanced weapons.

Maybe it's just me but it seems like every pairing in this show triggers "gaydar" readings.

Well, except for Mon-El, he's got game, lol. He should be like "Damn, Kara, I'm rocking a new suit and getting it in the copy room, I think I'm fitting in just fine!".
 
So much for the idea that Supergirl needn't dodge bullets because street crooks won't have access to rare and advanced weapons.

The question there pertained specifically to the hypothetical idea of kryptonite bullets, and not knowing whether a given weapon was firing them or not. There's no reason the introduction of obviously exotic, alien ray guns would be relevant to that specific question.


Maybe it's just me but it seems like every pairing in this show triggers "gaydar" readings.

I can see why people think that about Lena-Kara, but after last night's episode, I think that Lena's strong interest in Kara has more to do with what she said here -- that Kara is the only person who's been a friend to her since she came to National City, and perhaps even since Lex's villainy became clear, so she's lonely and values having someone who accepts and likes her rather than expecting the worst of her.
 
If Kara and Supergirl need to be in the same place, all she needs to do is call on Hank. Problem solved.

I think that Lena's strong interest in Kara has more to do with what she said here -- that Kara is the only person who's been a friend to her since she came to National City, and perhaps even since Lex's villainy became clear, so she's lonely and values having someone who accepts and likes her rather than expecting the worst of her.
Smallville all over again?
 
If Kara and Supergirl need to be in the same place, all she needs to do is call on Hank. Problem solved.

But they already did that gag. It would be repetitive to do it again. And Hank/J'onn has other responsibilities -- plus now he actually has a personal life! Slightly. He can't be at Kara's beck and call every time she needs an alibi.


Smallville all over again?

Given that the Clark-Lex relationship in early seasons was one of the few things about that show that really worked, I wouldn't mind seeing something similar. Not every relationship needs to be romantic or familial. Friendship is an important relationship too, and with Cat and Lucy gone, Kara doesn't really have any non-family women that she's close to, at least not as speaking characters onscreen.
 
If they go the Clark-Lex route, that could mean trouble down the line given that Kara is keeping something from Lena. But given how these Arrowverse shows work, I could see Kara revealing her secret sooner rather than later.
 
The question there pertained specifically to the hypothetical idea of kryptonite bullets, and not knowing whether a given weapon was firing them or not. There's no reason the introduction of obviously exotic, alien ray guns would be relevant to that specific question.
Well, if someone is going to supply thugs with alien ray guns is it out of the question they might procure kryptonite bullets?



I can see why people think that about Lena-Kara, but after last night's episode, I think that Lena's strong interest in Kara has more to do with what she said here -- that Kara is the only person who's been a friend to her since she came to National City, and perhaps even since Lex's villainy became clear, so she's lonely and values having someone who accepts and likes her rather than expecting the worst of her.
Not just the female pairings I kind of got that from Mon-El/Winn and even Jimmy/Winn. I'm not saying it's the case just that the way it's filmed and the way they act it "pinged" that way a bit (to me).
 
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm interested to see where James' venture into vigilantism goes,

Its interesting, but I hope this is just not an exercise to "put James in his place" by having him hurt--or hurt others (which is a plot that might be around the corner), only to have him fall back into his sidelined position at Catco.

It will also be interesting to see what ends up happening between her and her mother, Doctor Luthor, since they clearly have a very strained/antagonistic relationship and Lena is likely unaware of her mother's involvement with Cadmus.

I would guess both have an end game where aliens are concerned, only Lena seems like the type who would use them for some sort of power grab for herself, while--obviously--her mother seeks to destroy them. If the plotting is logical, mother or daughter will fall because of that, but if we're being honest, I'd rather see Mother Cadmus stick around. She's a compelling character.

I don't know why, but Alex's existential journey in this episode didn't quite have the impact on me that I think the writers and Chyler wanted it to.

Probably because it was out of left field. This was never explored at all in season one, and suddenly, its falls on the plot like a piano pushed from the top of a high rise. There's never an impact when the character relations are forced--which was the opposite of James and Kara, where an entire season built their natural connection & attraction.

Dr. Luthor iis all very well and good when it comes to chewing the scenery, and her relationship to Lex goes some way towards explaining her hatred for aliens, but every new episode that includes her makes her look more stupid.

Why waste what must be extremely rare weapons on something like this? How are human gangs using alien weapons supposed to have anything to do with alien amnesty in the first place? The status of the immigrants has absolutely no effect on whether those weapons are on Earth or not and real oversight is actually exactly what you need to solve that sort of problem.

Humans did not bring those weapons to earth--aliens are responsible for that, so terrorist acts using the weapons reinforces the idea that all things alien are a threat to global human security. Remember, the human response is just as the Catco co-worker expressed--fear--powerless, and a need to have weapons that match creatures generally more powerful than the average human. That co-worker was one of the few times the series accurately presented a snapshot of real world sentiment (whether you exchange fantasy aliens for real immigrants, technologically superior nations, etc.).

On a different topic, is the DEO still secret or not? I've lost track, but I wondered for moment why Kara didn't just say yes when Carr asked if she at least had an anonymous source. She knows multiple deo agents, in addition to of course being Supergirl, so if he was willing to accept anonymous, why not just say 'an anonymous source in the deo'? And there's the science cop, too, now that I think of it, and that definitely isn't secret.

Not so secret, when civilians just waltz right in like Lennie & Squiggy on any episode of Laverne & Shirley.
 
I wish we would have gotten more of the Mrs. Doubtfire gag than we did. That was a great line by the way.

I never saw that movie, so I didn't entirely get it (much like the "end of Working Girl moment" reference in the first-season finale). I take it there's a scene in that movie where Robin Williams has to quick-change between identities more than once?


Well, if someone is going to supply thugs with alien ray guns is it out of the question they might procure kryptonite bullets?

As I said the last time this came up, the only established source of kryptonite in this show's universe is the DEO's supply, which is now in Superman's hands. The characters have no reason to believe kryptonite bullets are even a possibility at this point. They'd have to be neurotically paranoid to worry about something with zero evidence. And if they were neurotically paranoid, they wouldn't fly around fighting bad guys as a career choice.
 
I never saw that movie, so I didn't entirely get it (much like the "end of Working Girl moment" reference in the first-season finale). I take it there's a scene in that movie where Robin Williams has to quick-change between identities more than once?

I'm surprised you've never seen Mrs. Doubtfire. Yes there is a scene like that but I recommend seeing the whole thing.
 
As I said the last time this came up, the only established source of kryptonite in this show's universe is the DEO's supply, which is now in Superman's hands. The characters have no reason to believe kryptonite bullets are even a possibility at this point. They'd have to be neurotically paranoid to worry about something with zero evidence. And if they were neurotically paranoid, they wouldn't fly around fighting bad guys as a career choice.
Can we agree that they should probably at least avoid taking the blast of unknown ray guns? At least, if no one is immediate danger?
 
Do we know they're rare? There seems to be a fair amount of alien immigration to Earth, so there are lines of commerce and communication. Cadmus may have an offworld supplier. (Qward, maybe?)



Bigots don't base their decisions on rational considerations or facts. There's no way any sane person would believe you could build a 3,200-kilometer-long border wall to keep out Mexican immigrants, and anyone who bothers to check the facts would know that there are currently more Mexicans leaving the US than entering it anyway, and yet an entire presidential campaign this year has been based primarily on advancing the cartoonishly absurd and counterfactual notion that such a thing is possible and necessary. Because it's not about facts and logic, it's about blind hate and irrational fear.

I suppose, though personally I'd prefer a villain who actually makes more sense.

As to rarity - Supergirl claimed they were far beyond the technology of Krypton. Given Krypton's status as a long lived colonial power with an extremely scientific culture, I find it hard to believe there's that many super-advanced (by kryptonian standards) weapons floating around this seemingly fairly small alien population on this backwater planet that doesn't even have space travel yet.
 
Where else but a backwater planet would you deal illegal super-advanced weapons. Earth is the planet of choice for such things. Only a couple powered individuals and no global advanced detection or police force to worry about.
 
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