I've only been following the show casually, but I think they were on the prison ship that was released from the Phantom Zone when Kara's ship broke free.
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Fort Rozz, the kryptonian prison that followed Kara's ship out of the Phantom Zone and crashed on Earth.
They were all prisoners on that Kryptonian prison ship that Kara dragged out if the phantom zone with her who got freed when the ship crashed.
You must be watching a very, very different show than I am, because I never seen anything even close to that. Just discussing sexism, or complaining about men is not advocating misandry.
I am a white male, and I have never once had a problem with anything the women on the show have said. Everything they've said has seemed perfectly realistic and appropriate to the situations.
The "office full of kickass women" or whatever it was line made me laugh out loud. I've seen a few of those, and heard about others. They're full of backbiting, jealous, gossiping, "kickass" women who would just as soon rip each others' hair out as look at each other one more day. As competitive as men are, women are 10x more.
It's a nice dream.
Right. It is so blind to think that the only two possibilities are A oppressing B or B oppressing A. The goal of feminism is to create a society where neither sex is oppressed or demeaned. Human society is not a zero-sum game. Sexism hurts men as well as women. (Mad Max: Fury Road is a nifty allegory about that, the way that hypermasculine values diminish and harm both men and women in different ways.) Equality benefits everyone.
I hope The X-Files' ratings don't affect Supergirl's too much.
It is not appropriate when this soap-boxing is as frequent as the actual episodes. Again, the contrast was James, when he made a relevant point about how he's had to act as a black man in society, but he only needed to say it one time--the point was effective, realistic & understood. That's not the case with the female characters, who are written to either soapbox or rant about identity / anti-male ideology at some point in every episode. This discussion (and others off-site) exist for a reason.
Of course, some SG viewers (not referring to you) are so hyper politicized themselves, flying the breathless flag of agenda (that only works in one direction--flying in the face of their oft-yelled--and selective--"equality") that they will make excuses for anything--including that which creates a negative effect. Again, this discussion (and others off-site) exist for a reason.
Imagine how crazy BvS Batman would be in Supergirl's world...
I'm not sure if it's unique to the TV series or not but MM's fear of fire makes a lot of sense after this.
I'm not sure if it's unique to the TV series or not but MM's fear of fire makes a lot of sense after this.
They'd better not let anyone else in to see that White Martian since she knows who Henshaw is....
Senator Crane: "let's build a dome" Sigh---could they be more apparent in channeling Donald Trump's / illegal alien / wall speeches? Berlanti, just send a check to the Donald J. Trump for President campaign for cloning that.
The martian Crane attack at the DEO was carried off well; the stunts work better concealed in near darkness, but the martian/SG CG was lacking.
Hank/J.J.: The "white martian" creature responsible for his family / race's demise was the jewel of this episode. His anger / thirst for revenge was a weighty performance. In fact, since his reveal, J.J. is the most magnetic character on the series, by far.
He mentioned being sent to wherever his family is--a reference to a martian heaven?
Alex: The growing relationship between Alex and Hank is the second most natural of the series, after Kara & James.
Kara: Referring to Cat as "family" is a stretch. Yes, her inherent good nature makes her push to make such a connection, but she's reaching too much--possibly to throw off Cat's suspicions..which I think will be explored through Adam.
Didn't Kara have a white martian matter to deal with while playing family / future boyfriend therapist?
James: Aside from the subplot of his wanting to get back to photojournalism and out of the office, I see a light sub-plot planted with his not being available for Lucy--perhaps not a full break-up, but more drama to be sure.
Winn: Oh, joy. He would be better off as a villain, not as the crying guy.
Cat / Adam: Yes, we get the not so subtle message with the remake of Hall and Oates' "Maneater" song playing in the restaurant during the mother/son scene.
...and now the Lord SG clone plot begins. I guess its possible he will make Crane return to her anti-alien beliefs, with Lord waiting in the wings to manipulate the entire situation / fears among the population.
The martian Crane attack at the DEO was carried off well; the stunts work better concealed in near darkness, but the martian/SG CG was lacking.
Hank/J.J.: The "white martian" creature responsible for his family / race's demise was the jewel of this episode. His anger / thirst for revenge was a weighty performance. In fact, since his reveal, J.J. is the most magnetic character on the series, by far.
He mentioned being sent to wherever his family is--a reference to a martian heaven?
Alex: The growing relationship between Alex and Hank is the second most natural of the series, after Kara & James.
Kara: Referring to Cat as "family" is a stretch. Yes, her inherent good nature makes her push to make such a connection, but she's reaching too much--possibly to throw off Cat's suspicions..which I think will be explored through Adam.
Didn't Kara have a white martian matter to deal with while playing family / future boyfriend therapist?
James: Aside from the subplot of his wanting to get back to photojournalism and out of the office, I see a light sub-plot planted with his not being available for Lucy--perhaps not a full break-up, but more drama to be sure.
Winn: Oh, joy. He would be better off as a villain, not as the crying guy.
Cat / Adam: Yes, we get the not so subtle message with the remake of Hall and Oates' "Maneater" song playing in the restaurant during the mother/son scene.
...and now the Lord SG clone plot begins. I guess its possible he will make Crane return to her anti-alien beliefs, with Lord waiting in the wings to manipulate the entire situation / fears among the population.
Well, tears can turn to anger, but his last scene in this episode had him trying (or pretending) to reach out to Kara. This cannot wrap so easily.
Ohh, yes. That song cannot be confused with any other. Honestly, that was as subtle as Cat sitting there with horns coming out of her head.
Wow. This was an amazingly good episode on almost every level. Terrific writing, directing, and acting. David Harewood did some amazing work as J'onn. And the VFX work was astonishing, especially the extended Mars flashbacks. They outdid themselves on this one.
I'm particularly pleased to see them making a statement about bigotry, with Tawny Cypress playing a Trump-like race-baiting politician. I've surely mentioned how the post-WWII Superman radio series featured villains like that on a regular basis and made overt statements of racial and religious tolerance, so I'm proud to see Supergirl telling such a forceful and topical allegory about racism and its exploitation by politicians -- with the inclusion of death camps in the Martian flashbacks serving as an illustration of where that mentality can lead. This is bold stuff. As someone who cut my genre teeth on Star Trek, I'm always pleased to see science fiction tackling social commentary and being about something more than just adventure and spectacle. Although I think Senator Crane came around with implausible ease at the end. It's a nice happy ending, but it's a bit too pat a resolution. And in reality, even if her mind were changed, she'd still be under a lot of pressure to pander to what "the base" wanted to hear.
The Cat/Adam story was effective as well, with some great interplay between Cat and Kara and between Cat and Adam. I was stunned to see Cat actually soften when Adam appeared -- we've never seen that in her before. And we really got to see the complexity of the Cat/Kara relationship, though maybe there was a bit too much of Kara putting it into words rather than just letting it speak for itself as it's done so eloquently all along. The one part that was underwhelming was the boy-meets-girl stuff with Adam and Kara. It seemed so ordinary in the midst of all this great stuff.
A lot less crazy, I think, because in that world, Superman and Supergirl haven't been implicated in the destruction of half a city.
It's not just fear -- fire is Green Martians' weakness, like kryptonite for Kryptonians. So it's the other way around -- the White Martians burned them because fire is the one thing that can kill them (or at least the most effective way).
I'm particularly pleased to see them making a statement about bigotry, with Tawny Cypress playing a Trump-like race-baiting politician. I've surely mentioned how the post-WWII Superman radio series featured villains like that on a regular basis and made overt statements of racial and religious tolerance, so I'm proud to see Supergirl telling such a forceful and topical allegory about racism and its exploitation by politicians -- with the inclusion of death camps in the Martian flashbacks serving as an illustration of where that mentality can lead. This is bold stuff. As someone who cut my genre teeth on Star Trek, I'm always pleased to see science fiction tackling social commentary and being about something more than just adventure and spectacle. Although I think Senator Crane came around with implausible ease at the end. It's a nice happy ending, but it's a bit too pat a resolution. And in reality, even if her mind were changed, she'd still be under a lot of pressure to pander to what "the base" wanted to hear.
The Cat/Adam story was effective as well, with some great interplay between Cat and Kara and between Cat and Adam. I was stunned to see Cat actually soften when Adam appeared -- we've never seen that in her before. And we really got to see the complexity of the Cat/Kara relationship, though maybe there was a bit too much of Kara putting it into words rather than just letting it speak for itself as it's done so eloquently all along. The one part that was underwhelming was the boy-meets-girl stuff with Adam and Kara. It seemed so ordinary in the midst of all this great stuff.
A lot less crazy, I think, because in that world, Superman and Supergirl haven't been implicated in the destruction of half a city.
It's not just fear -- fire is Green Martians' weakness, like kryptonite for Kryptonians. So it's the other way around -- the White Martians burned them because fire is the one thing that can kill them (or at least the most effective way).
This wasn't a psychological fear of fire.
John just froze in confrontation with his victimizer.
John just froze in confrontation with his victimizer.
That's psychological too.