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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 1

Agents of Shield's Pilot sucked, and wasn't anywhere near Joss Whedon's best outings as a writer either solo or working with other people.

Supergirl's, on the other hand, is an episode that I would easily put as one of my Top 3 favorite episodes to have some involvement from Greg Berlanti (alongside the Arrow Pilot and Flash vs. Arrow).
 
Again, loved it! Melissa/Kara is AWESOME! :adore: I am glad it had a good rating for the premiere. :bolian:

I actually prefer that the show stay in it's own "universe".
 
Eh, rewatching it about a month ago, I liked Agents of SHIELD's pilot a bit better than Supergirl. Now, episodes 2-7 or so of Season 1 AoS were pretty bad, but the pilot was pretty good set up, and none of the characters were super irritating or anything. Even Skye wasn't too bad in the pilot (even though she'd spend the next half of the season being fairly intolerable until she evened out around the end of season 1). I certainly didn't think that AoS's pilot had anything nearly as bad as the Cat Grant segments of Supergirl, and no characters that were written as horribly as Grant or Henshaw were in Supergirl. I'd put both pilots at about the same level, with AoS being slightly better.
 
I wasn't impressed with this first episode. It came off as a bit cheap and pretty much by the numbers superhero TV fair. I was actually kind of bored.

Man I cant believe you are still talking about this. The show is being made so everything is fine. You all can watch it with no problem. Why are you still complaining? Be happy and watch the show and quit whining or just stop whining. Sheeesh.
 
I can understand how the Cat Grant character could be grating for some people, but I actually think her bitchy Devil Wears Prada act is a lot of fun to watch.

And it should be even more fun to see her reaction when she finally learns the assistant she's been treating like shit all this time is Supergirl herself (and knowing Berlanti, I'm sure she will eventually learn that secret). :D
 
Cat was honestly and unabashedly one of my favorite things about the Pilot. Calista is playing her exactly as the role was originally described (J'Lo by way of Anna Wintour), but it's also clear that she does, in her own strange way, care for Kara and her other employees, even if she'd never admit it to them.
 
So - reading over the Wiki entry for Vartox, it seems that the creators of Supergirl did a rather radical redesign of the classic character.

Another quick note - I enjoyed the "woman vs. girl" argument that Kara and Cat had in Cat's office.
 
I liked it, and my 7 year old daughter REALLY liked it. She is really into the whole 'girl power' thing, so for her to see a female superhero on screen is a big deal for her.
I cringed a little when that guy started talking about lesbians (not ready for that conversation yet), and then when the bad guy stabbed himself in the heart, but otherwise it was ok for her.
 
-If the show lasts a few years and Marvel premieres a movie with another blonde superheroine named Carol Danvers, who sues whom first?

I don't think either side would sue over something like a last name for a character.

On the subject of last names, Kryptonian women go by their father's name for their maiden last name and take on their husband's name for their married last name. Sounds stupid, but that's how it's been in the comics for a while, hence Lara Jor-El and Alura Zor-El.

Happy to see this show did well in the ratings. :)
 
Another quick note - I enjoyed the "woman vs. girl" argument that Kara and Cat had in Cat's office.

Yeah... It seems to me that a lot of women have embraced the "girl" label these days, seeing it as symbolizing youthful energy and potential rather than immaturity or weakness. I think there are a number of contexts in which men are okay calling themselves "boys" too -- fanboys, Boyz in the Hood, good ol' boys, etc.


I liked it, and my 7 year old daughter REALLY liked it. She is really into the whole 'girl power' thing, so for her to see a female superhero on screen is a big deal for her.
I cringed a little when that guy started talking about lesbians (not ready for that conversation yet), and then when the bad guy stabbed himself in the heart, but otherwise it was ok for her.

Well, at least Supergirl didn't kill him. Hopefully this show will do better than other productions at the whole "superheroes don't kill" thing.


-If the show lasts a few years and Marvel premieres a movie with another blonde superheroine named Carol Danvers, who sues whom first?

I don't think either side would sue over something like a last name for a character.

And if they would, they would've done it back in 1977 when Carol Danvers was created. It's indeed possible that she was named as an homage to Kara Zor-El, aka Linda Lee Danvers. There's a long history of DC and Marvel creating characters as "homages" to each other's characters; for instance, the Shi'ar Imperial Guard from X-Men is a thinly disguised Legion of Super Heroes, and Marvel's Deadpool (Wade Wilson) was originally a knockoff of DC's Deathstroke (Slade Wilson), though he ended up going in a more comedic direction.

Maybe both characters were named for Mrs. Danvers in Rebecca, though.

Of course, calling this version of Supergirl Kara Danvers instead of Linda Danvers increases the confusion. I did wonder if the decision to have Kara pronounce her name "Kah-ra" rather than "Kare-a" is to differentiate it from Carol Danvers.


On the subject of last names, Kryptonian women go by their father's name for their maiden last name and take on their husband's name for their married last name. Sounds stupid, but that's how it's been in the comics for a while, hence Lara Jor-El and Alura Zor-El.

That's news to me. But it's no more or less stupid than our custom of women going by their father's surname and then adopting their husband's surname; the only difference is that they use the whole name.

I've seen some versions that treat the house name as a surname in the Anglophone sense, like "Jor-El and Lara-El."
 
I cringed a little when that guy started talking about lesbians (not ready for that conversation yet),

Why not? It's only a big deal if you make it a big deal. When we talk to my daughter about family we always include the various possible family configurations. We've been doing this since she started asking and she doesn't bat an eye at it. Just my two cents.
 
I know it's been brought up before, but I'm really curious to see how the writers address the fact a huge Kryptonian prison ship full of the "worst criminals in the galaxy" can somehow crash on Earth without Superman taking notice of it, and why he wouldn't have taken charge of rounding them up himself (or why Kara wouldn't at least enlist his help if things got really desperate).

Are we really to believe he's THAT busy with other things and other threats to help Kara and the DEO out? Or will they explain that he is helping out, but we just never see it?

The "prisoner of the week" device is the one thing I'm not really crazy about on this show, and this is just one more reason why. I think it might have been better to at least have them slipping in one by one through the phantom zone and into the heart of the city (much like the Earth 2 villains on Flash), so that Kara would have no time to ask for help and no choice but to take them on herself.
 
^ I wondered about that too. Looks like they're keeping a low profile and only the DEO knows about them.
I did wonder if the decision to have Kara pronounce her name "Kah-ra" rather than "Kare-a" is to differentiate it from Carol Danvers.
I don't recall any instance where her name was pronounced "Kare-a". Kah-ra sounds better anyway. I have a friend with that name and that's how we pronounce it, so that's another bias for me.
 
Finally got to see it. Wasn't overwhelmed but at the same time I have no complaints. I was never really into Supergirl so I wasn't waiting eagerly for this premier as some were but I WILL give it a fair chance.
 
I can understand how the Cat Grant character could be grating for some people, but I actually think her bitchy Devil Wears Prada act is a lot of fun to watch.

Not if she becomes the "boss caricature" seen in so many comics--like nearly every animated & live action version of J.Jonah Jameson.

And it should be even more fun to see her reaction when she finally learns the assistant she's been treating like shit all this time is Supergirl herself (and knowing Berlanti, I'm sure she will eventually learn that secret). :D

I hope not. The world of Supergirl should remained as closed as possible, so the main characters do not seem to be some pack. Its enough that there's two co-workers & one government agency aware of her.
 
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