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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 1

I think they've all been really good so far, although mostly due more to the Kara storylines and character relationships than whoever the villain of the week is she has to face.
 
I think they've all been really good so far, although mostly due more to the Kara storylines and character relationships than whoever the villain of the week is she has to face.

I think it was you who said the stuff with Kara as a girl with glasses has gotten a little more interesting than the stuff with Kara and Supergirl. I'm starting to agree with that. The last few weeks the scenes with Cat/Kara and then this week with Kara/Jimmy has really shown the kind of good potential this show could have. Now if they just fix the Supergirl parts, I could see myself really liking it.
 
Red Tornado was kind of disappointing. I knew that he was coming in as a villain, but I know in the comics he is traditionally more often a hero, so I was really hoping the episode would end with him being redeemed rather than destroyed.

I expect that will happen later on in the series. His head will be recovered and he'll be rebuilt, or he'll self-repair, or maybe he just escaped under cover of the explosion, and we'll discover that he's sentient now (following up on Alex's throwaway line to that effect here) and no longer wants to be used for Evil. Or something like that.


Current love situation is a bit in limbo though. Lucy should cheat on Jimmy with Kara ASAP.

Well, Kara has said in as many words that she wants to date Lucy... :D
 
Because it's a bad idea.

I know it's a bad idea and Photojournalists have value.

(Maybe not a 100k a year value, but value.)

Besides in this version of Supergirl, Jimmy isn't (only) a photographer, he's an editor and department chief in charge of the photography division, which qualifies him as management and if Sam hates him for being a shutterbug, then the General is an idiot for hating Jimmy for being a wussy photographer when he's actually a wussy pencil pusher.

Speaking of 100k a year.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...y-lawyer-25686.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=nz

That's a minimum of how much Lucy gave up to be with James, (and distance herself form her asshole father) when she resigned her commission.

If Jimmy's not going to marry her, or show a proportionate degree of commitment to respect that financial sacrifice Lucy made for (partially) him, she's a punk.
 
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You mean like when he pulled a metal bomb casing apart with his bare hands in episode 4?

;)

Yeah, but no one who matters witnessed that.

Hank could be an alien infiltrator. After the original human is found and reclaims his stolen life in season 2 or 3, it is then that Henshaw may go through the origin of turning into the Cyborg (Superman) with mechanopathy on his own personal journey to Villainy. It's what happened with Wells in the Flash. Kill off the baddie, but keep the actor around because there are other characters with the same face.
Possible, which makes me think his defending Supergirl from Lane was not about the DEO, but to keep her close, for some purpose that might be a game changer for Supergirl. For all we know, Henshaw could end up finding some mutual benefit with Kara's aunt.


The pilot ratings were high both because it was a pilot and because it had a great lead-in - possibly the best lead-in available in all of broadcast television right now.

That is the truth of the matter: a strong lead-in provided the audience for the pilot. If it aired on another night, a night with no geek demographic interest, the results would have been different. Moreover, those who seem to be frightened--or want to silence all observation about the ratings cannot ignore the Variety article (two weeks ago) pointing out a weekly drop in the ratings. There's no point in some denying what was happening.

Thankfully they're still at a level where it's likely the show will be renewed. I think it did a 1.6 last night which is safe from cancellation.
I want to see the season end strong, but it remains to be seen. In an age where the big screen superhero films pull out all the stops, fans will expect more from TV superhero series in terms of scale, thrills and the feeling that it larger than life.


Some of the FX work (ex. some flying shots) really need improvement; they are so clearly composite work that in no way looks like she's a part of the environment. The tornado FX were very video game-like.

I actually thought the opening flying shot was some of the most impressive work they've done yet. It finally looked like she was flying through a real sky this time instead of just hanging in front of a green screen.

It was an overhead and one of the medium shots that appeared hastily slapped together.

But I definitely agree that the Red Tornado FX were lacking. The costume already looked cheesy enough, and when you throw in the bad tornado effects and twirling body parts, well... it just wasn't a good combo. Here's hoping this was just a crude prototype suit, and the next time we see him he'll look a helluva lot better

This is what I mean about the series needing to pull out all the stops--upping its larger than life game. This is not the 1950s, where there were no bigger, successful superhero productions to stand as a superior comparison to the George Reeves Superman series. This is the age of the MCU, MoS, the Batman films, etc., so the heroics, drama, spectacle and fantasy has to be on a level now consistent in superhero movies.

No audience member is going to con themselves and say, "oh, its TV, so I don't expect it to look like that."


Current love situation is a bit in limbo though. Lucy should cheat on Jimmy with Kara ASAP.

Well, Kara has said in as many words that she wants to date Lucy... :D

Not gonna happen.
 
In the comics, Lucy Lane was briefly the military asset/Superhero "Superwoman".

Copyright infringement is the insincerest form of seduction?

(Kara: "Hey that's not fair! I wanted to be Superwoman!!")
 
In the comics, Lucy Lane was briefly the military asset/Superhero "Superwoman".

She and Cat Grant are the only main characters not aware of Kara's identity. Want real drama? Do not tell your boyfriend/girlfriend you're the city's superhero. Watch what happens. Keeping Winn in the dark, especially if he still had to offer his help, would have been particularly cruel way to go there, but that ship has sailed. And it is Lucy who harbours more negative feelings for Supergirl... Great way to emphasize the perception contrast between Kara's identities here.
 
Some drongoes think Cat knows.

I think Jimmy's right -- Cat doesn't really "see" Kara. Heck, Cat is still calling Kara "Kiera."

I sort of felt last week that Carter, Cat's son, figured out who Supergirl was. Or at least, had a really strong suspicion by the end of the episode.
 
I think Jimmy's right -- Cat doesn't really "see" Kara. Heck, Cat is still calling Kara "Kiera."

She seems to drift between "Kira" and "Care-ah" with no rhyme or reason. I imagine we might get a "Cora" in there at some point.

And Cat is definitely starting to "see" Kara -- when she took notice about Kara's parents dying, and when she took her out for drinks to talk about anger. Cat is aware of Kara and sees her as a project, a protege to cultivate and push. It seems her rude and dismissive act is a deliberate challenge she poses to Kara to see if she develops the backbone to push back against it -- which she has started to do. (I'm reminded of an early Lois & Clark episode where Perry was running Jimmy ragged with menial errands and dismissing his suggestions, and when Jimmy finally got mad, stood up for himself, and insisted he deserved better treatment, Perry was delighted.)
 
Too many of Supergirl's personal circle (I do not count Henshaw as part of that) know her civilian identity as it is. Outside of her mother & sister, the only other person who should know from this point forward is James (for all of the obvious emotional reasons / Superman history / reason to be in that city). However, Winn knows (and her cousin' ID--that cannot go well), while some want Lord to know and exploit that, either through Alex, or reaching his own conclusions. I would not wish to see that, as the sniveling villain spitting "I know who you are" needs a long vacation. A superhero story can be just as tension-filled without a plot device used a million times over.
 
At least we haven't had someone who should know better blubber out the hero's name in front of an essentially total stranger like last night on The Flash... yet. :lol:
 
Too many of Supergirl's personal circle (I do not count Henshaw as part of that) know her civilian identity as it is. Outside of her mother & sister, the only other person who should know from this point forward is James (for all of the obvious emotional reasons / Superman history / reason to be in that city). However, Winn knows (and her cousin' ID--that cannot go well), while some want Lord to know and exploit that, either through Alex, or reaching his own conclusions. I would not wish to see that, as the sniveling villain spitting "I know who you are" needs a long vacation. A superhero story can be just as tension-filled without a plot device used a million times over.

That's all good but the worst thing is that she flies out of her appartment in costume in full daylight.

She has to know that she has neighbors who have windows and that windows, by design, are transparent and that people sometimes tend to look outside. I hope they include this at some point in an episode because it's dumb as hell but i still get a chuckle out of it.
 
Too many of Supergirl's personal circle (I do not count Henshaw as part of that) know her civilian identity as it is. Outside of her mother & sister, the only other person who should know from this point forward is James (for all of the obvious emotional reasons / Superman history / reason to be in that city). However, Winn knows (and her cousin' ID--that cannot go well), while some want Lord to know and exploit that, either through Alex, or reaching his own conclusions. I would not wish to see that, as the sniveling villain spitting "I know who you are" needs a long vacation. A superhero story can be just as tension-filled without a plot device used a million times over.

Well yeah, but like you said it's her personal circle and among people she can trust. And Kara certainly doesn't seem like the kind of person who would be comfortable lying to her close friends for very long, as Oliver did for ages and ages, so I'm glad the writers aren't forcing us to sit through that storyline.

Obviously the wider public shouldn't learn the truth, and I'd rather Cat Grant not learn it (since it would ruin the wonderful dynamic they have together now), but I don't see a problem with the people who know the truth now.
 
Too many of Supergirl's personal circle (I do not count Henshaw as part of that) know her civilian identity as it is. Outside of her mother & sister, the only other person who should know from this point forward is James (for all of the obvious emotional reasons / Superman history / reason to be in that city). However, Winn knows (and her cousin' ID--that cannot go well), while some want Lord to know and exploit that, either through Alex, or reaching his own conclusions. I would not wish to see that, as the sniveling villain spitting "I know who you are" needs a long vacation. A superhero story can be just as tension-filled without a plot device used a million times over.
I couldn't possibly disagree more. I'm really tired of stories with the hero trying to hide their identity from everyone. I think it's a lot more fun when their friends and family know, so they can get in on the action. I'm not saying it should be public knowledge, but I think the group that knows here all have a good reason to know. Winn is her best friend, so it makes sense that she wouldn't want to hide something so big. Alex is her foster sister, who was raised with her, and now works with her so it would be ridiculous for her not to know. James was already knows about her cousin, so it makes sense he would know about Kara. The only one I could maybe buy not knowing is Henshaw. I have no problem with him knowing, but since she only works for him as Supergirl there's no real reason he would need to know. The reveal that the DEO has been aware of Kara since she came to Earth makes that whole argument pointless.
I don't know if I would trust Cat with Supergirl's identity, and Lucy is to new to know how trustworthy she really is.
 
It would be interesting if they addressed the fact that the NSA almost certainly knows who she is now, after a couple of episodes ago when she was visible flying on radar as Supergirl while on Kara's phone with Cat, and then landed outside of a private school (with a ton of security cameras, no doubt) and changed clothes.
 
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