Spoilers Supergirl - Season 1

[Christopher]

^Yes, of course -- but clearly that conceit is not being used here.

One place where the "Superman telekinesis" idea comes in handy is in the stunt commonly used in TV adaptations where Superman (or Clark in Smallville) is just standing on the ground and catches someone falling from a great height, thereby saving their life, when realistically he'd just cut them into three pieces when they slammed into his outstretched arms at terminal velocity. One pretty much has to assume he has the ability to cancel the inertia of anything he touches.

See also the bit in the pilot episode of The Flash where the Flash "saves" the crashing bicyclist by abruptly accelerating him to superspeed in the exact opposite direction from the way he was already moving. That would've just made things much, much worse than actually letting him hit the pavement, unless there were inertial cancellation going on.

 

[Tosk]

Who's that guy in the costume to the left of the SUV and behind the civilian? It looks like he's wearing a red mask similar to Deadpool's.

It is Deadpool. SHIELD and Carter have been doing a dubsmash war for charity, and SHIELD had Benoist and a non-Fox, non-Reynolds Deadpool in one of theirs.

 

[Christopher]

It is Deadpool. SHIELD and Carter have been doing a dubsmash war for charity, and SHIELD had Benoist and a non-Fox, non-Reynolds Deadpool in one of theirs.

Have been doing a what now?

 

[Corran Horn]

It is Deadpool. SHIELD and Carter have been doing a dubsmash war for charity, and SHIELD had Benoist and a non-Fox, non-Reynolds Deadpool in one of theirs.

Have been doing a what now?

https://www.crowdrise.com/dubsmashwars

Benoist was in the Team SHIELD second round video.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

^ I think it started casually at a convention before they did it for charity because some of my favorite ones aren't shown. For example: https://instagram.com/p/5DkAfiv3-j/

In fact, looking at the photos and videos and stuff I don't think that's Melissa Benoist in costume (from behind) in the one twitter picture but a stunt double and that the hard-to-see sandaled feet are actually her. https://instagram.com/p/8JdPBbP3-b/

 

[Corran Horn]

^ I think it started casually at a convention before they did it for charity because some of my favorite ones aren't shown.

It did, and there are a few great ones involving Chris Evans as Cap that were before the charity contest.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

I am slightly disappointed how lazily some parts are written, compared to how slickly it is done. It didn't actually bother me while watching, in fact I was surprised how much I enjoyed it given that I haven't enjoyed anything Superman-related since I was 12. But when I like something, I end up thinking about it afterwards and... It started feeling as if in places the writers had approached the story with over-confidence that it will just work and pulled it like Supergirl a tanker.

So they decided to explore the theme of inexperience collides with sexism, which is wonderful, and one that deserves special care. But it's like they wrote the literally first thing that came to mind, and ended up with some moments that looked too artificial. To me, at least.
- “Superman would have blown it by now!” – you wouldn't say that to a superhero, and that's just not how you react the first time you meet one. That would make much more sense if the guy had whispered it to the guy next to him and Ms. Danvers had heard it. And I think he would have pissed his pants when she says “I heard you!”
- The tanker breaking apart conveniently for the plot right after that phrase. That's so obvious. I was screaming “stop pulling, you will tear it apart!” from the moment she started pulling. Yeah, it's true the graphics department foreshadowed it, except I was screaming the very same thing last week with the plane. This really should have started back then – the plane's integrity should have suffered, endangering the passengers. Now it's duck taped to the story with “oh, you lodged the plane into the bridge and we can't remove it”. Though I must admit that line is kinda brilliant – that sort of criticism is just out of space.
- In the aftermath, the only visible depiction of sexist attitude is mentioned in Cat Grant's rant. True, some of her criticism of Supergirl didn't some to come from the right place, but that's left hanging there like an to-be-interviewed Supergirl.
- Finally, we embark on a journey to save Supergirl's reputation, not avoid her doing accidental harm to others. It's a natural thing that she will first and foremost want to recover from the embarrassment tanker moment, but she is not Cat Grant, and seems like someone who will have the fishes in mind when doing it.

And what's up with randomly mention a “trick” that takes months to master, and then just thinking about it let's you pull it off? “I'll just start small and work hard ,” and she's back in full glory in five minutes. And “I'll use her strength against her,” and she kicks her Astra's ass without a mention of how she was too slacking on Earth all those years. I think I will stop watching any TV until TV shows just stop doing that. It's annoying.

 

[Christopher]

Have been doing a what now?

https://www.crowdrise.com/dubsmashwars

Benoist was in the Team SHIELD second round video.

That still doesn't quite explain to me what it is. Some sort of musical competition for charity?

- “Superman would have blown it by now!” – you wouldn't say that to a superhero, and that's just not how you react the first time you meet one.

I can totally believe that a man would say that to a female superhero. There are people whose prejudices override all logic, and a man accustomed to devaluing women would still follow that same reflex even if the woman had powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men.

Now it's duck taped to the story with “oh, you lodged the plane into the bridge and we can't remove it”.

No, the plane was ditched in the river and they were trying to remove it from there. I liked that line -- nice to get an acknowledgment of the need for cleanup after a superhero's efforts. That's something that doesn't generally get addressed, except in a comedy series like Marvel's Damage Control.

Along the same lines, there was the bit early in the episode with Maxwell Lord talking on TV about how the damage from Superman's battles had adversely affected the economy of Metropolis.

- Finally, we embark on a journey to save Supergirl's reputation, not avoid her doing accidental harm to others. It's a natural thing that she will first and foremost want to recover from the embarrassment tanker moment, but she is not Cat Grant, and seems like someone who will have the fishes in mind when doing it.

Surely it's about both. She wants to become better at helping people first and foremost, to practice and improve at her craft. The approval of the public is something she earns by that improvement, and is not the sole end in itself. But having the people's trust and respect does have practical value for a superhero, because you get more cooperation from the citizens and authorities.

And what's up with randomly mention a “trick” that takes months to master, and then just thinking about it let's you pull it off? “I'll just start small and work hard ,” and she's back in full glory in five minutes. And “I'll use her strength against her,” and she kicks her Astra's ass without a mention of how she was too slacking on Earth all those years.

It's not like that one move let her win the fight. It let her break one hold, but she still would've lost if Henshaw hadn't come along and stabbed Astra with that kryptonite dagger.

Besides, Kryptonians aren't just superstrong, they're supersmart too, at least in some versions. At the very least, they have superior senses and memory. I can buy that Kara's sensory and muscle memory of Alex's moves in their fight would've been precise and detailed enough to let her replicate those moves more easily than a human could. (Although, granted, the kryptonite emitters would've been weakening her abilities at that point.)

 

[The Old Mixer]

Also, regarding Supergirl's concern about her reputation, she's wouldn't want to tarnish the legacy established by her cousin.

 

[Jedi_Master]

Also, regarding Supergirl's concern about her reputation, she's wouldn't want to tarnish the legacy established by her cousin.

That's true. There is a lot of pressure when you put on the "S".

 

[davejames]

I kinda hope one of those good deeds Kara did to rehabilitate her image (even if we didn't see it in the montage) was helping those poor engineers get the plane out of the water. Since they were apparently having such a hard time with it, and since it seems like the kind of super friendly and considerate thing she would want to do.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Have been doing a what now?

https://www.crowdrise.com/dubsmashwars

Benoist was in the Team SHIELD second round video.

That still doesn't quite explain to me what it is. Some sort of musical competition for charity?

A dubsmash is an app to make small videos of people lip syncing. At a convention Clark/Chloe and Hayley/James became engaged in a game of one-upmanship with dubsmash videos. Noting the popularity that ensued they then took it to a climax by allowing the public to vote on it and raise money for charity at the same time.

It was all in fun, including inside jokes such as "TeamCarter" enlisting Chris Evans in theirs playing on Coulson's connection to Captain America and lip syncing to one of Chloe Bennett's (or Chloe Wang's...) own songs or the song from Dirty Dancing (Clark Gregg being married to Jennifer Grey).

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

So they decided to explore the theme of inexperience collides with sexism, which is wonderful, and one that deserves special care. But it's like they wrote the literally first thing that came to mind, and ended up with some moments that looked too artificial. To me, at least.
- “Superman would have blown it by now!” – you wouldn't say that to a superhero, and that's just not how you react the first time you meet one.

Why not? In that world, Superman is an established hero of great success, and if he has any faults, they were early on his career--long buried by his apparent legendary status. So, the comparison is valid, as he is the example all other would be compared to, and is not the reaching social issues a few are trying to pump up & into this still light, straightforward series.

 

[Corran Horn]

So they decided to explore the theme of inexperience collides with sexism, which is wonderful, and one that deserves special care. But it's like they wrote the literally first thing that came to mind, and ended up with some moments that looked too artificial. To me, at least.
- “Superman would have blown it by now!” – you wouldn't say that to a superhero, and that's just not how you react the first time you meet one.

Why not? In that world, Superman is an established hero of great success, and if he has any faults, they were early on his career--long buried by his apparent legendary status. So, the comparison is valid, as he is the example all other would be compared to, and is not the reaching social issues a few are trying to pump up & into this still light, straightforward series.

When that happened I turned to my wife and said "Can you believe anyone would really say that?"

 

[The Old Mixer]

My thought was, how does this guy know what Superman would do? He doesn't even live in Metropolis. Granted, Superman would be a well-known figure, but he said it a little too definitively, like he'd seen Superman in action first-hand.

There were more natural ways to phrase that line while getting the same point across--"Hey, shouldn't you be blowing that out with your super-breath or something? Ain't that what Superman does?"

 

[Christopher]

My thought was, how does this guy know what Superman would do? He doesn't even live in Metropolis. Granted, Superman would be a well-known figure, but he said it a little too definitively, like he'd seen Superman in action first-hand.

Superman isn't exactly media-shy, as a rule (considering that he works for the media). Look how much photographic coverage we saw of Supergirl in her "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" montage here. That was maybe just a day's worth of heroing, and there were plenty of images in the press -- not just distant, blurry shots, but up-close and clear. No doubt cell-phone cameras are as ubiquitous in her branch of the multiverse as in ours. So just imagine how much footage there must be of Superman's feats all over TV and the Internet.

 

[The Old Mixer]

I acknowledged that, but the whole delivery was a little too "been there, done that," as if, as others have touched upon, this weren't the first time that he'd seen a superhero in action with his own eyes, which is a different experience.

 

[davejames]

Well the guy was obviously being rude, and there's no shortage of rude people in the world.

 

[Christopher]

In the few days since the new Star Trek series was announced, this BBS has spawned a panoply of threads criticizing, complaining about, and demanding the cancellation of a show that doesn't even exist yet. So I have no trouble whatsoever accepting that the rescue worker's unimpressed and judgmental reaction toward Supergirl is well within the range of plausible human reactions.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

My thought was, how does this guy know what Superman would do? He doesn't even live in Metropolis. Granted, Superman would be a well-known figure, but he said it a little too definitively, like he'd seen Superman in action first-hand.

I acknowledged that, but the whole delivery was a little too "been there, done that," as if, as others have touched upon, this weren't the first time that he'd seen a superhero in action with his own eyes, which is a different experience.

But as you say, Superman is well-known figure. Having a flying super-powered alien call earth his home would be the most well covered story in history, there's no end of the media that would not obsess with coverage of the man. That said, its not hard to imagine that most of the population would know how Superman operates, even if only through the media. The guy gave a natural response in a world with a Superman.