Spoilers Supergirl - Season 1

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  1. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Tomorrow Never Knows Premium Member

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    have you actually watched a Soap? I can only speak to the one my wife and I watch, but quite often there is more action, crime, intrigue and violence than an episode of Arrow. Hell the episode we just watched had a car crash caused by a prisoner stabbing a cop in the chest, a doctor seemingly approving of euthanasia and a mobster plotting the death of a rival. Might have been some romance drama too.
     
  2. TemporalFlux

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    I really thought the season one cliffhanger was going to be a breaking news report of "Superman Dead" with Kara watching in horror. It would have been the smart move; it would have finally allowed Kara to truly make her own way, and it would have paved the way for a Reign of the Supermen season introducing us to Cadmus Superboy, the Eradicator, Steel and Cyborg Superman. There would be a full season worth of stories in that.

    It was all just sitting there for the producers to grab, and they wasted the opportunity. After how much they've mined the comics material in Flash, I'm surprised and disappointed by their mistake.
     
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    I suspect they will introduce that concept if the show lasts. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the Eradicator or Cyborg Superman in the pod. Although, as I've said I really want it to be Krypto.
     
  4. Marc

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    it's not necessarily their mistake. Flash has benefit from not having any big budget movies in the works so it's been able to pull from the comics without the restrictions placed on other shows by the powers that be.
     
  5. hadd001

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    Does anyone know if this has been renewed officially yet?
     
  6. Winter Wondieland

    Winter Wondieland Vice Admiral Admiral

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    CBS has a conference in 10 days, all shall be revealed then.
     
  7. TREK_GOD_1

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    That's not Superman's fault or problem as a character--but the inherent flaw of Berlanti's adaptation of Supergirl; its as though they know the general culture expects Superman to show up, so they're obligated to refer to him, but at the same time, attempt to break him down as "weak" in order to elevate Supergirl's status, when Superman--for example--becomes the legend without any other super being backing him up--even in this series.

    Supergirl should operate in the same way, but the producers--either for the aforementioned acknowledgement of SG's flaws, or perhaps its an acceptance that even on her own show, Superman is still the essential DC character that many want to see as a part of the series.
     
  8. JD

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    I don't think I'd say they made Superman weak. They obviously took him out of the picture a lot, but I thought they did it in ways that made sense for the character, and didn't undermine him.
     
  9. Christopher

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    Heck, it's a grand tradition to take Superman out of action so other heroes can do things, or just to underline how tough the villains are. The Justice League animated series is infamous for overusing that trope in its first season, and I gather it happens a lot in JL comics too. Even in Superman's solo comics and shows, the number of villains who can get their hands on kryptonite tends to increase substantially over time. It's the fate of the strongest character to get knocked down the most often to keep up the sense of danger. TV Tropes calls it The Worf Effect.
     
  10. TREK_GOD_1

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    It undermined the character when--over and over again--we hear "you're stronger than your cousin" / "you're faster than your cousin" and the idiotic "explanation" about his being susceptible to Myriad. He's only in this series for the producers to push an agenda, when one can develop/sell SG's abilities without having Superman show up just to fail/sidelined, etc. In Dawn of Justice, Superman did not have to be reduced to a weak third wheel in order to build up the formidable abilities of Batman or Wonder Woman.

    Of course, the reason that did not happen is that the film was not fueled by external factors having nothing to do with the development of the lead hero.
     
  11. JD

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    I'll give you Myriad, but were there really that many different times they said she was better than he was?
    EDIT: Never mind, they didn't say that she was able to resist Myriad because she was better than Kal, it was simply because of the circumstances of how they were raised. It was basically luck on Kara's part, and had nothing to do with strength or skil.
     
  12. Christopher

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    Right. It actually tied in nicely to the key difference between the two -- Supergirl was older when she left Krypton, so she has a more Kryptonian identity and mindset. She feels like an outsider on Earth, while Clark sees it as his only home. So it wasn't just luck, it was plotting that reflected the characterization and themes of the series.
     
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    Good. Kick it over to get them all in the same universe somehow and be done with it.
     
  15. tomalak301

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    Very happy with the news. However, the CW is pretty packed now so I wonder what Day it's going to be on. I would love a Tuesday night of Flash and Supergirl back to back.
     
  16. Marc

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    At least we know it's going to get a second season.

    Only problem with the move is that a a big chunk of the of the initial costs (set construction) that could have been split over two seasons (or paid off with the first season helping profitability on the second) pretty much goes back to square one.

    And will be interesting to see if gets a new home on Canadian tv with the change in the U.S network.
     
  17. JD

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    Maybe they should just pick up Gotham too, and then just rename it The DC Network. I'm joking.
    I'm very happy about this, since it means we'll be getting a second season and makes more crossovers easier.
    I guess it could effect the budget, but I really haven't noticed that big of a difference between Supergirl and The Flash and Legends of Tomorrows when it comes to the quality of SFX, so I don't see it hurting them to much. If Legends can have ATOM, Capt. Cold and Heatwave, Hawkgirl, and Firestorm all using their powers at once I think Supergirl will be OK.
     
  18. Winter Wondieland

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    Whoa, excellent!

    I expect a weeklong crossover event next season. :D
     
  19. Stephen Lee

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    Just wondering, but how do the actors/actresses feel about the move? I guess they can't complain but we are talking about packing up and moving. Do most actors/actresses expect this might happen and just go with the flow?

    I wonder if CTV will end up picking up Supergirl since it has all the other CW shows, instead of staying on Global.
     
  20. Kai "the spy"

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    Well, not excellent, since the move to The CW will come with a smaller budget. I just hope the move to Vancouver will bring costs down enough to not let it be that noticable on-screen. Of course, though, this is preferable to no season two at all.

    Now there's an upside. I call Crisis, resulting in Earth-SG to be folded into Earth-One. With maybe Rip Hunter filling in for the Monitor.
     
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