It just takes older people longer to adjust to change.
Don't over-generalize.![]()
Hey, I'm getting weekly solicitations for AARP these days . . .
It just takes older people longer to adjust to change.
Don't over-generalize.![]()
Damn! Beat me to it.Time is an illusion. Teatime doubly so.
ALL older people have a special excuse we are permitted to use when we don't like something.
^Cool. Now what the blazes does it mean?![]()
But parallel timelines are a real prediction of the Everett-Wheeler interpretation of quantum physics, whereas both classical and quantum theoretical approaches to the physics of time travel conclusively rule out the possibility of any event being "erased" by time travel.
... what are you proposing? That they tell original-timeline stories with Pine, Quinto, Urban, and the movie cast in faithful recreations of the original sets and costumes?
No. I'm a niner. I didn't want them to re-make (and totally change) TOS. I wanted my damn DS9 movie!![]()
^Cool. Now what the blazes does it mean?![]()
That would be telling . . .![]()
You can't know that, not unless you are J.J.Abrams.
The "new timeline", which is technically an alternate timeline...
The thing that often puts me at odds when discussing these things is that either I can't understand other people or they can't understand me. I will try. The wave function collapse is a metaphor. Whether or not the cat is dead is a set of probabilities, which is called the wave. Nothing happens when you actually look, you just find out what IS, and that is called the collapse.
"But the other theory was that the different states [in the ensemble] aligned and reinforced each other in what’s called a coherent superposition, so that the whole macroscopic system -- the atom, the poison, the cat, the scientist, and everything that interacted with them -- ended up in two distinct states at once, each isolated from the other, effectively splitting the universe into two different realities. Both made up of the same particles, but experiencing different histories from that point on. When you measure a particle, it still looks like it collapsed into one state, because you can only see the state that aligns with the timeline you’re in. One copy of you sees a live cat, the other sees a dead cat."
Sure, all the possible states can be expressed by the imagining pre-observer, but to say that all of them exist (the many-worlds theory) until you actually observe and collapse the wave? Isn't that like believing everything you think?
I'm being a little like Einstein here when I ask, but isn't there an objective reality about which we are ignorant until we discover the hidden parameters?
But parallel timelines are a real prediction of the Everett-Wheeler interpretation of quantum physics, whereas both classical and quantum theoretical approaches to the physics of time travel conclusively rule out the possibility of any event being "erased" by time travel.
The thing that often puts me at odds when discussing these things is that either I can't understand other people or they can't understand me. I will try. The wave function collapse is a metaphor. Whether or not the cat is dead is a set of probabilities, which is called the wave. Nothing happens when you actually look, you just find out what IS, and that is called the collapse. Sure, all the possible states can be expressed by the imagining pre-observer, but to say that all of them exist (the many-worlds theory) until you actually observe and collapse the wave? Isn't that like believing everything you think? I'm being a little like Einstein here when I ask, but isn't there an objective reality about which we are ignorant until we discover the hidden parameters?
I am sorry if this is thread diverting. Maybe it isn't. Can we discuss time travel in this thread? I hope so.
As to your other question:
... what are you proposing? That they tell original-timeline stories with Pine, Quinto, Urban, and the movie cast in faithful recreations of the original sets and costumes?
No. I'm a niner. I didn't want them to re-make (and totally change) TOS. I wanted my damn DS9 movie!![]()
I wanted my damn DS9 movie!![]()
As for the new reality I am all for it because we have no idea what will happen. Will Khan be discovered or will David be born? For that matter will Tuvok be born? We have the Star Trek universe we know & now a whole new one to explore. I find that idea
fascinating.![]()
I admit I found the writing the new book surprisingly liberating. Forget the old continuity. I had a whole new future to play in.
Not that I have anything against the old timeline, of course, but I'd already done that over a dozen times before . . . .
Popular among the readers, granted (at least, based on reactions observed by me on exactly one internet forum, i.e. here). Among the general Trek fans, not so much. Had such a movie ever been considered, I sincerely doubt that the anguish of a handful of people would have been a concern to those involved.I wanted my damn DS9 movie!![]()
Thus causing anguish for readers of the highly popular DS9 post-series novels when the stories and characters fail to match up with the new canonical material.
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