Spoilers Suicide Squad - Grading & Discussion
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Yeah, also those types of videos are always pretty much pointless.
People who hated the movie will watch and link 34-minute "this sucks" videos, people who enjoyed the movie will watch 34-minute "this is great" videos...
As for SS, I won't watch either, it was a fun and enjoyable movie for me, and yeah, silly and stupid at times, but I really don't think it's a movie that needs to be overanalyzed in overlong videos of any kind...
Who knew that artistic critique was "pointless"? So many people have wasted their lives. 
Quick tought -- we rented iton redbox...but fell asleep at points, so we might have missed things.
But did they show any scenes on Slipknot? So like for the intro of the characters in jail, I don't remember any minutes spent on him (as opposed to Deadshot & Harley).
Regarding what I glanced at previously...with El Diablo's death, they were able to really draw out a character the audience could like, so his death was a bit sad, and woks for the movie.
With Slipknot, that actor is a "forgotten minority", that gets wiped out with just maybe 4 minutes of screen time...combining it with Hollywood's portrayal (or lack thereof) of Native Americans as characters and actors, it feels like a continuation of Hollywood racism (like when you see 3 people at the end of the movie, a white guy, a white girl, and a black man, you already know who for sure is dead).
Coupled with Enchantress getting rescued -- happy endings for the white people. And other minority-played actors not really getting much (Katana, Killer Croc)
I know you can only do so much with a big cast but limited time (and an expectation of SOMEONE dying)...but still...
This was an OK movie..not changing my stance of calling it the DC Film Universe (or its abbreviation)
But I must say, the marketing department did a great job in creating commercials to build excitement for it, and the twentyOnePilots "Heathens" really fit in well with the movie.
Speaking of commercials, were some of the scenes (like the bar scene where Harley compliments Diablo on his drink choice) - was that missing from the actual movie?
one last thought -- think they will have Amanda Waller turn Deadshot's daughter into an "asset" (with her seemingly advanced STEM skills)?
But did they show any scenes on Slipknot? So like for the intro of the characters in jail, I don't remember any minutes spent on him (as opposed to Deadshot & Harley).
Regarding what I glanced at previously...with El Diablo's death, they were able to really draw out a character the audience could like, so his death was a bit sad, and woks for the movie.
With Slipknot, that actor is a "forgotten minority", that gets wiped out with just maybe 4 minutes of screen time...combining it with Hollywood's portrayal (or lack thereof) of Native Americans as characters and actors, it feels like a continuation of Hollywood racism (like when you see 3 people at the end of the movie, a white guy, a white girl, and a black man, you already know who for sure is dead).
Coupled with Enchantress getting rescued -- happy endings for the white people. And other minority-played actors not really getting much (Katana, Killer Croc)
I know you can only do so much with a big cast but limited time (and an expectation of SOMEONE dying)...but still...
This was an OK movie..not changing my stance of calling it the DC Film Universe (or its abbreviation)
But I must say, the marketing department did a great job in creating commercials to build excitement for it, and the twentyOnePilots "Heathens" really fit in well with the movie.
Speaking of commercials, were some of the scenes (like the bar scene where Harley compliments Diablo on his drink choice) - was that missing from the actual movie?
one last thought -- think they will have Amanda Waller turn Deadshot's daughter into an "asset" (with her seemingly advanced STEM skills)?
were you specifically talking about the person you responded to, or people in general? Relatability to characters is certainly one major aspect that makes a film enjoyable.
If SS (exactly the same movie) had a Marvel logo in front of it, it would have been in every best-films-of-2016 list and video.
Suuuure...
Not even close...
Yes, I'm sure [Bearded Guy no.37 from Youtube]'s thoughts on Suicide Squad will be required viewing at the AFI for generations to come...
Probably. After all, "DEADPOOL" made a lot of "Best of 2016" lists. And I'm still trying to figure that out.
Yes, I'm sure [Bearded Guy no.37 from Youtube]'s thoughts on Suicide Squad will be required viewing at the AFI for generations to come...
Everybody gets their start somewhere.
Deadpool wasn't a Marvel movie, either. It was a Fox movie.
I rewatched the movie yesterday and realized something that hadn't really registered with me before: it's a romantic drama couched in the guise of a comic-book movie, since nearly all the characters are motivated by love (Deadshot by love for his daughter, Flag by his love for June, Enchantress suconsciously by June's love for Flag, Katana and Boomerang by their growing and unexpected attraction to each other, and Harley and Joker by their love for each other*) the question of what lengths one is willing to go to in the name of love is the "narrative glue" that holds the entire story together.
* And, yes, this version of Joker is genuinely in love with Harley; the movie makes that crystal clear.
* And, yes, this version of Joker is genuinely in love with Harley; the movie makes that crystal clear.
^ I can't think of another version where there's genuine reciprocal love between the characters. It's usually Harley being in love/obsessed with Joker and Joker basically using her with a few moments of genuine caring for her on his part interspersed here and there.
With the DCEU, though, they basically serve as analogs of Bonnie and Clyde where there's genuine love there from both parties. There's evidence indicating that things didn't start out that way, but it's definitely become a reciprocal love affair by the time we get to the present-set events of Suicide Squad.
With the DCEU, though, they basically serve as analogs of Bonnie and Clyde where there's genuine love there from both parties. There's evidence indicating that things didn't start out that way, but it's definitely become a reciprocal love affair by the time we get to the present-set events of Suicide Squad.
It is a long video and it is a thoughtful video with a lot to say about the art of film editing. It is worth your time to watch it.
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Nope. For all that it was a mistake in general to introduce the characters with montages-set-to-licensed-music-with-a-logo (since it ate up a lot of screentime, prevented the filmmakers from showing negotiations with any character other than Deadshot, and hurt the pacing early on -- the film was almost halfway over before the plot had actually begun), the lack of that for Slipknot basically meant that the audience was being told from his first appearance that this guy would not matter and would probably die soon.
Damn straight.
In fairness, Deadshot got a happy ending of sorts, but you make a good point that the other non-white characters get no such happy ending.
Trailer Park was the name of the company that did the trailers for Suicide Squad -- and who were subsequently hired to produce an edit of the film which was then combined with David Ayers's edit to produce the theatrical version.
"Heathens" was the best thing to come out of that movie not named Margot Robbie, Will Smith, or Viola Davis.
Yep.
What, you mean like the released-enjoyed-and-then-basically-forgotten Doctor Strange? Or the hey-this-was-fun-but-really-when-is-Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-2-coming-out Ant-Man?
The difference between Marvel Studios films and the DCEU films is that the weakest Marvel Studios films not entitled Iron Man 2 are technically competent but forgettable, with a solid and unremarkable three-act structure. DCEU hasn't had a competently-structured film since Man of Steel, if that.
Deadpool wasn't my thing, but it had a very simple three-act structure presented in a non-linear narrative in order to break up the only two action sequences Deadpool (as opposed to his alter-ego Wade) actually appears in: the bridge sequence and the finale with the I-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-A-Hellicarrier. This is because Deadpool is actually not a character/persona that can carry an entire movie, so they put together a three-act structure where he appears in only two sequences but broke it up to create the illusion that he has more scenes than he actually does.
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Which is to say you didn't watch it and have no idea what is actually in it.
True, I blame it on his editing, he edited himself right out of a viewer with that intro...
All 8 seconds of a joke, eh?