Spoilers Suicide Squad - Grading & Discussion
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He *did* do something. He got up and "did it himself" by getting an Infinity Gauntlet... a second one (i.e. NOT the one in Odin's treasure vault) and saying he's going to do it himself. Unfortunately on his way to do it himself he got distracted by something interesting on TV and had to stop and watch it while a few more movies happened. Poor Thanos, wants all of the power in the universe but hasn't managed to get a DVR yet.
Well at lest he isn't like Thor who needs his dad to tell him about the infinity stones, and then needs a vision to remind him about it. Hell shouldn't he already know what the damned things are seeing as Sif already does and I would think frickin prince of Asguard trumpets her in hearing about shit.
I liked it. Certainly no masterpiece, they could have maybe used half of the songs that they used, the villain was so so, it did feel rushed and choppy at times and we get it Will Smith, you want to see your daughter but overall I felt this was an enjoyable, fun flick that definitely entertained me.
Certainly don't get the vitriol being thrown its way, it all seems pretty silly to me having seen the movie now.
Leo's joker was good. Not as good as ledger but good. I think if there had been more of him in the movie that would have worked well and perhaps better received. Hopefully he's given much more screen time in the future.
Seems like Waller knows Wayne is the batman? Also she was pretty badass, good character.
Having seen the Flash, in this movie and the justice league trailer, I'm pretty on board, think he's going to be a great character.
I hope there's an ultimate edition of this like bvs, I think that would only help the movie.
Definitely a newish take on the superhero genre that I'd like to see fleshed out more in the DC verse.
Certainly don't get the vitriol being thrown its way, it all seems pretty silly to me having seen the movie now.
Leo's joker was good. Not as good as ledger but good. I think if there had been more of him in the movie that would have worked well and perhaps better received. Hopefully he's given much more screen time in the future.
Seems like Waller knows Wayne is the batman? Also she was pretty badass, good character.
Having seen the Flash, in this movie and the justice league trailer, I'm pretty on board, think he's going to be a great character.
I hope there's an ultimate edition of this like bvs, I think that would only help the movie.
Definitely a newish take on the superhero genre that I'd like to see fleshed out more in the DC verse.
My guess is that the trailer was limited to whatever effects the team could complete, so no real underwater or Cyborg CGI stuff. What we did see of Cyborg looked pretty cool though.
Saw this last night and thought it was terrible. Badly conceived and just badly made. Thankfully it did get better as it went along but given how awful the opening half hour was that wasn't difficult. Clearly they decided the original mission brief (which I'm guessing was the actual briefing) wasn't clear enough, so they had Waller meet with those guys in the Restaurant first to explain using small words what she wanted. Which would be fine, except they then left the briefing scene in as well! I kinda lost count how many character introductions Deadshot, Harley and Enchantress actually had? At least three in the case of Deadshot near as I could tell and at least two for Quinn and Enchantress. That's just lousy film making. There's nothing wrong with reminding the audience of things, but reminding them literally minutes after you've told them the first time is so redundant it's untrue.
Some of the action scenes were terribly generic, lots of people shooting/hitting things in the dark, how original, and then the actual ending...well this seems to have turned from Escape from New York into Ghostbusters (and the similarity to both films edged close to copyright violation in certain circumstances).
Leto is an awful Joker on the evidence here. I appreciate much of his performance seems to have been cut but I can only go on what I saw. If it was actually possible to appreciate Cameron Monaghan in Gotham more Leto's performance would have done it. I get that Jerome was a very traditional take on the Joker (even though he wasn't the Joker) but we've had a very different take on the Joker from Ledger, surely it would make sense to go for a more traditional take rather than going out there again? A friend of mine says Leto is the sacrificial Joker, and that the next guy will have an easier ride because he won't be compared to Ledger, he'll just have to be better than Leto.
Killer Croc was terrible, Waller was terrible (no problem with her being nasty, in using criminals to get the job done, in manipulating people for the greater good, but shooting her own staff? WTF?
I love as well how this crazy band of outlaws become true friends in the space of about 60 minutes...despite barely talking to one another!
On the plus side (with caveats). Smith was great, true screen presence, although his Deadshot was too much of a nice guy really, Diablo was good, and I liked that the gangbanger was the most peaceful and philosophical of the bunch but his backstory was painful. Robbie was probably better than she had any right to be, she looked great, had some nice lines, but I never felt she was truly crazy (same for Leto).Cara Delevingne was surprisingly good as Enchantress, though as others have said, that dancing? Really it comes to something when there's an argument for Jai Courtney being the best thing in a film.
It made me laugh a few times, and I wasn't bored (apart from in the opening section) but this might be the worst film I've seen this year. DC need to radically overhaul their model, or else they need to quit while they're behind.
Some of the action scenes were terribly generic, lots of people shooting/hitting things in the dark, how original, and then the actual ending...well this seems to have turned from Escape from New York into Ghostbusters (and the similarity to both films edged close to copyright violation in certain circumstances).
Leto is an awful Joker on the evidence here. I appreciate much of his performance seems to have been cut but I can only go on what I saw. If it was actually possible to appreciate Cameron Monaghan in Gotham more Leto's performance would have done it. I get that Jerome was a very traditional take on the Joker (even though he wasn't the Joker) but we've had a very different take on the Joker from Ledger, surely it would make sense to go for a more traditional take rather than going out there again? A friend of mine says Leto is the sacrificial Joker, and that the next guy will have an easier ride because he won't be compared to Ledger, he'll just have to be better than Leto.
Killer Croc was terrible, Waller was terrible (no problem with her being nasty, in using criminals to get the job done, in manipulating people for the greater good, but shooting her own staff? WTF?
I love as well how this crazy band of outlaws become true friends in the space of about 60 minutes...despite barely talking to one another!
On the plus side (with caveats). Smith was great, true screen presence, although his Deadshot was too much of a nice guy really, Diablo was good, and I liked that the gangbanger was the most peaceful and philosophical of the bunch but his backstory was painful. Robbie was probably better than she had any right to be, she looked great, had some nice lines, but I never felt she was truly crazy (same for Leto).Cara Delevingne was surprisingly good as Enchantress, though as others have said, that dancing? Really it comes to something when there's an argument for Jai Courtney being the best thing in a film.
It made me laugh a few times, and I wasn't bored (apart from in the opening section) but this might be the worst film I've seen this year. DC need to radically overhaul their model, or else they need to quit while they're behind.
End times.
I think someone got Thanos Netflix and now he's binge watching eveything before he begins his evil plan.
Netflix and then kill.
I decided to wait a few days before giving a rating. I chose C. It had potential but was lacking in substance.
I just saw movie about an hour ago, and I really liked it.
Leto was actually in a lot more of it than I expected. I thought his Joker was great, not quite at the level of Hamill or Ledger, but better than Nicholson.
I'm a huge Harley fan, and Margot Robbie was perfect, absolutely perfect. I
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Will Smith was great as Deadshot. I understand that some people thought he was to nice, but first of all, this is Will Smith, so there was very little chance he was going was going to be a total bastard. I thought the character worked a lot better this way, than if he had been unsympathetic.
I liked the Batman and Flash appearances a lot.
Enchantress was a pretty good villain. I was a little confused though, because I thought
Waller was great, very scary and intimidating.
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I thought the overall story was pretty good. This is definitely one though where the characters were really what made the movie.
I do have to agree that it was a little surprising to see them going with such a big apocalyptic threat, but I thought they made it work.
I love that they gave everyone a chance to shine.
I thought the action scenes were pretty good.
I was surprised how important El Diablo actually ended up being in the end.
I definitely disagree about the accusations of sexism and misogyny. I'll address each issue I've seen mentioned:
Joker electrocuting Harley: This really didn't bother me. Once she saw it was Joker, she did not hesitate, and was more than willing to let him electrocute her. It was all completely voluntary on her part, and there really wasn't any violence on his part.
Joker and Harely in the club: I think a lot of people thought he was offering Harley to the gangster, but it seemed to me that they were actually just screwing with him. He was a dead man the moment he made the comment about Harley, and pretty much everything after that was just them having a bit of fun.
Slipknot hitting the agent/soldier/whatever she was: This had nothing to do with her being a woman, she just happened to be the closest person when he got lose.
It gets and A from me.
Leto was actually in a lot more of it than I expected. I thought his Joker was great, not quite at the level of Hamill or Ledger, but better than Nicholson.
I'm a huge Harley fan, and Margot Robbie was perfect, absolutely perfect. I
actually felt a little bad for her when she thought her Puddin' was dead, and I never thought I'd feel at a bad about the Joker maybe dying
Will Smith was great as Deadshot. I understand that some people thought he was to nice, but first of all, this is Will Smith, so there was very little chance he was going was going to be a total bastard. I thought the character worked a lot better this way, than if he had been unsympathetic.
I liked the Batman and Flash appearances a lot.
Enchantress was a pretty good villain. I was a little confused though, because I thought
Enchantress completely disintegrated June's body, but then at the end, June was fine.
I was pretty surprised when they revealed that she was the one they were rescuing
I thought the overall story was pretty good. This is definitely one though where the characters were really what made the movie.
I do have to agree that it was a little surprising to see them going with such a big apocalyptic threat, but I thought they made it work.
I love that they gave everyone a chance to shine.
I thought the action scenes were pretty good.
I was surprised how important El Diablo actually ended up being in the end.
I definitely disagree about the accusations of sexism and misogyny. I'll address each issue I've seen mentioned:
Joker electrocuting Harley: This really didn't bother me. Once she saw it was Joker, she did not hesitate, and was more than willing to let him electrocute her. It was all completely voluntary on her part, and there really wasn't any violence on his part.
Joker and Harely in the club: I think a lot of people thought he was offering Harley to the gangster, but it seemed to me that they were actually just screwing with him. He was a dead man the moment he made the comment about Harley, and pretty much everything after that was just them having a bit of fun.
Slipknot hitting the agent/soldier/whatever she was: This had nothing to do with her being a woman, she just happened to be the closest person when he got lose.
It gets and A from me.
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I agree with your first comment JD, and your Harley spoiler.
Though my opinion on Jared Leto's Joker is skewered by my dislike of his appearance (the tattoos and metal teeth).
Though my opinion on Jared Leto's Joker is skewered by my dislike of his appearance (the tattoos and metal teeth).
Ha ha ha. What a zinger. I'd better go find some aloe, because that burn is so painful and makes a lot of sense as well.
Don't forget to have your mom apply the aloe.
Went into the movie with low expectations based on early reviews, but really enjoyed it. One thing I really liked was the shots near the climax of Enchantress illuminated from behind so all you could see was her silhouette and glowing eyes. Thought that image would even give Superman pause.
If Deadshot were to ever show up in a Batman movie, I think an easy way to utilize him is have Joker force him to hunt the bat by using the man's daughter as leverage. Unfortunately for Deadshot, he spilled too much info about his motivations to Harley.
If Deadshot were to ever show up in a Batman movie, I think an easy way to utilize him is have Joker force him to hunt the bat by using the man's daughter as leverage. Unfortunately for Deadshot, he spilled too much info about his motivations to Harley.
