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Stuff that make you wonder but not own thread worthy

I've always wondered...

When Worf says he has stood against Kelvans twice his size in "TIME'S ORPHAN", does that mean the Kelvans in "BY ANY OTHER NAME" reverted to their natural form? If so, could they be Rojan and the others he stood against, since we don't know exactly how long they can live, or perhaps their children or grandchildren?
 
If Shran met Sisko would he call him "Black skin" and would he still be able to walk after that encounter.
 
Why didn't the Enterprise-D/TNG ever visit the Gamma Quadrant?

If Shran met Sisko would he call him "Black skin" and would he still be able to walk after that encounter.
In one of the Rise of the Federation novels, Shran is about to all Mayweather "Pinkskin" but then stops himself.
 
Why didn't the Enterprise-D/TNG ever visit the Gamma Quadrant?
If you did a crossover between DS9 and TNG casts, when would you set it? I think the Enterprise-E fits well with the Defiant and the Jem'Hadar and the Dominion around DS9 Season 4 or 5, but I think I'd prefer seeing DS9 crew using the Enterprise-D as transport for some mission around early DS9 Season 2/TNG Season 7, and it being purely some scientific mission and like the only time they fire a weapon is to drill a hole or something.
Riker was almost going to make it to the wormhole in his own ship in an unmade TNG episode pitch. https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wik...The_Next_Generation_episodes#Breen_two-parter
 
If Shran met Sisko would he call him "Black skin" and would he still be able to walk after that encounter.
1. "Brown skin" would be more likely. Black people aren't really black.
2. It's possible that we're all "pinkskin" to them, due to our red blood.
3. Considering that Sisko didn't twist the head off that slimy little Vorta in "Rocks and Shoals", I think he could take a mere insult.
 
When Worf says he has stood against Kelvans twice his size in "TIME'S ORPHAN", does that mean the Kelvans in "BY ANY OTHER NAME" reverted to their natural form? If so, could they be Rojan and the others he stood against, since we don't know exactly how long they can live, or perhaps their children or grandchildren?

Possibly, although more commonly it means stronger and heavier by a factor of two or more, not twice as tall. (13 feet high. Not too many (apparent) humanoids that big!)
 
Yeah,the “pink skin” jibe was really shortsighted.

In all fairness, the first humans the Andorians met had light skin. Seems like Shran coined the term on the fly and it kind of stuck. Probably didn't realize humans came in other colors until a bit later.

The only example we have in Trek of a person of color responding directly to a racial slur was Uhura's response to Space Lincoln... which was basically "why would I be offended by a word?"
 
C’mon,any reference to a persons skin colour is going to be considered “iffy”.
Why would the writers think this was a good idea?
Star Trek is analysed and debated like no other show in history,any racial slur and yeah,”pink skin” is intended by Shran to be a slur,is only inviting trouble.
 
Maybe by then, racism has been so thoroughly stamped out, people don't worry about it as much.

I think that was the idea, yeah. Uhura didn't even react to a racial slur. It's like, such a non-issue in her time.

If racism is just... essentially non-existent, it's really not a big deal. From real world personal experience, i'm white. If somebody were to call me like, cracker or something... it has absolutely no effect. I haven't been a victim of racism. It's a non-issue for me. Racial slurs don't have any effect. (I shouldn't say that's 100% true, there is one, more recent possibility that i've never actually encountered but I would take great offense to it, is "oppressor". Don't call me that. I haven't oppressed anyone. I wouldn't appreciate that.)

C’mon,any reference to a persons skin colour is going to be considered “iffy”.
Why would the writers think this was a good idea?
Star Trek is analysed and debated like no other show in history,any racial slur and yeah,”pink skin” is intended by Shran to be a slur,is only inviting trouble.

We tend to forget to take in account the time in which things were produced. This was produced in... 2001? I believe. Making reference to skin color was commonplace in media. The "Rush Hour" movies were quite popular, where the entire joke was "haha, black guy and Asian guy".

Two decades ago was not the same as today, and people did not think the same as they do today. A vast majority of people would never have thought twice about an alien calling a guy a pink-skin. Hell, the first time *I* thought about it was literally in this thread, now.

Racism exists. Why would we think aliens couldn't be racist towards humans? Shran's particular slur may be... not accurate? But I don't see any issue with it existing.

Humans aren't above it in Trek even in the 24th century. We know some use "spoon head" to refer to Cardassians. Ferengi used "hoo-mahns" as a slur... WHY they thought just intentionally mispronouncing our name was offensive I don't know, but it was clearly intended as a slur.
 
Just out curiosity, I was trying to think if I could think of any racial slurs in Trek. I'm not counting McCoy. That's too easy.

I think several different people have referred to both Vulcans and Romulans as "pointy ear" or some derivation thereof.

Other than that, i'm coming up short. There's certainly insults that are directed towards a certain group, like calling a Klingon "Romulan". I suppose that falls somewhere in the general racial slur territory.

Somewhat interesting on the "pink skin" front, it does actually seem like it had evolved from a downright racial slur into something of a term of endearment within a few years. Even after becoming friends, Shran would still call Archer "pink skin", but it no longer had the negative context. It was a much more playful term. It never really seemed to bother anyone to begin with.

^ I don't know why I find this as interesting I do, but there it is.

I'm also 100% sure that, in-universe that we just haven't heard, Humans have some kind of racial slur for Klingons. There's no way they never thought of one, because even in the 23rd/24th centuries, humans are gonna human. With the way that McCoy would casually throw names at Spock, a friend, there's no way he didn't know of some colorful names for Klingons.
 
I'm also 100% sure that, in-universe that we just haven't heard, Humans have some kind of racial slur for Klingons. There's no way they never thought of one, because even in the 23rd/24th centuries, humans are gonna human. With the way that McCoy would casually throw names at Spock, a friend, there's no way he didn't know of some colorful names for Klingons.

Not onscreen, but characters in A Flag Full of Stars used "turtleheads" several times.
 
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