I was replying to a specific statement made by the poster in my quotation.
STRONG FEMALE CHARACTERS!!!!!
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I was replying to a specific statement made by the poster in my quotation.
I think you have TrekBBS confused with an instant messenger app.
Your comment suggested that you felt we wanted to see female characters beaten up, an argument people often run to when the notion that they are presented unrealistically on TV comes up, that is not the case.
When I said women cant be beating I meant bested, not beating as in kicked the crap out of.
Understood. My mistake.
Rii
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Serenity reverted to the standard fight scene cliche of the two males beating on each other for minutes on end whilst the woman cowers in the corner, apparently incapable of moving more than two inches between each camera cut.
Because a lot of the time there's only the one female character in the main cast.
I hate when they try to push the female characters. It's 2009. We don't need to prove ourselves anymore. It just gets beyond annoying when it suddenly turns into I'M A GIRL AND I CAN ROUGH PEOPLE UP JUST LIKE A BOY CAN. I hate that girl power BS. I just want a good character that doesn't need to push the strength characteristic.
My favourite female is Storm from X-Men (thanks for ruining her, Halle Berry). She is a strong figure without having to shove the "I AM A WOMAN!!!!" garbage down everyone's throats. She just does her thing and shows she is a strong female without having to push it.
I'm all for a strong female character but I hate how they go about it. Makes it seem so feminist to push it and I hate feminism.
My favourite female is Storm from X-Men (thanks for ruining her, Halle Berry). She is a strong figure without having to shove the "I AM A WOMAN!!!!" garbage down everyone's throats. She just does her thing and shows she is a strong female without having to push it.
I'm all for a strong female character but I hate how they go about it. Makes it seem so feminist to push it and I hate feminism.
Rii
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She was certainly a fascinating character, even by Whedon standards. I recently read an essay by Nancy Holder concerning the depiction of women and gender roles in Firefly, whilst making some interesting points in general I felt she totally missed the mark on Inara, ignoring almost everything seen of the character in favour of a handful of lines taken in questionable context from "Shindig". I found the respect accorded to Companions in Firefly one of the most interesting facets of the 'verse.
She had a sharp stick, stab him in the neck with it whilst his back is turned! It'd certainly hurt more than that shove she received should've.
Through Inara's quick thinking, actually. It wasn't exactly a major flaw in the film, her disappearence from the scene was merely conspicuous and we were on the subject is all. Where's Inara? Oh, she's doing the cowering female thing.
I remember watching the first serious fight in The Bourne Identity (between two trained assassins) and literally flinching. Most of it was clever choreography and photography (the shaky cam was done to death by the third film), but it looked so much more realistic than haymakers and rolling around on the floor.
Come to think of it, the female lead in that film behaved like a normal woman. And she didn't scream either.
Come to think of it, the female lead in that film behaved like a normal woman. And she didn't scream either.
No, they're just more ridiculous and inaccurate.
Bingo.
Even my beloved Carol is guilty of that sometimes.
I meant in their final fight, Mal only beats the guy because his finishing move (for want of a better term) doesn't work on Mal because Mal had had the nerve cluster the Operative was attempting to disable removed years before.
I believe the martial art used by the various operatives in the Bourne films is Krav Maga. It was also used in Alias. The principle of it is doing as much damage as possible in as short a time as possible in order to neutralise the threat your opponent poses using whatever means are available to you at the time - the infamous book/throat incident in Ultimatum, for instance.
Very well put, I agree with everything you said. Nothing wrong with strong women its the type of strong women we get, good post....
Until more women are in power positions in the Hollywood film industry, the bias will remain.
You wouldn't expect an army of women churning out thousands of stories about men to be particularly accurate or unbiased, would you?
You wouldn't expect an army of women churning out thousands of stories about men to be particularly accurate or unbiased, would you?
That site has a few good examples of what I mean - Action Girl, You Go Girl, Affirmative Action Girl - and then most of them inevitably head towards Mary Sue before too long.
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