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This is probably a case of calling for a Le-Maya in the script, deciding to change it to a new cooler animal, and never changing the name behind the scenes because it is never said on-screen. At least that's the charitable interpretation.
You can say whatever you like. It's not like it matters to the studio or producers.
It was a typo, they meant Le-Matya, which was a cat-like creature from TAS
In DSC Season 2, we see a flashback of Burnham being chased by this big multi-legged creature, which apparently BTS materials called a Le-Matya, but it's never called that on screen.
It's called that in the script and the concept art, so it's 100% their intention that it be one.
Only Star Trek fans will deliberately ignore author intent to this kind of degree
If it's not spoken on screen it doesn't count. I have that view on almost all shows. I love authorial intent as much as the next but if it does not make it in then it doesn't have a bearing on the story.It's called that in the script and the concept art, so it's 100% their intention that it be one.
Only Star Trek fans will deliberately ignore author intent to this kind of degree
I've seen this view everywhere, not just with Star Trek.
Star Trek itself ignores authorial intent all the time. Why shouldn’t fans do the same?It's called that in the script and the concept art, so it's 100% their intention that it be one.
Only Star Trek fans will deliberately ignore author intent to this kind of degree
If authorial intent was the end all, the Klingon forehead ridges would never have been explained, they were intended to be a retcon.
‘Gene’s vision’ wouldn’t be ignored.
I haven't read any of the Discovery novels, but weren't nearly all of them contradicted by season 2? That was authorial intent until it wasn't.
Only the first one was.
Exactly. TOS would not even be considered historical in universe but a dramatic recreation of Kirk's logs.
All of them except the 2 latest have been contradicted in some way.
I know of the contradictions in Fear Itself and Desperate Hours, but how were the others contradicted?
Ok I forgot how many novels there's been lol I take that back
I think my point stands. Before season 2 the writers clearly had very different ideas for things such as Saru's backstory. Those ideas made their way into the novels before being discarded because they longer fit with the story they wanted to tell.
So if the SNW writers want to tell a story involving human Colt and alien Colt being the same person, then they will. But until then, I see no reason for names that are never said on-screen, one of which was only chosen as an easter egg, need to be treated as if they're carved in stone.
And besides, two different people can share the same name. I don't have a common first name or last name and a quick Google search reveals at least four other people with the same combination.
Are fans going to argue that Quark's cousin Gaila and Gaila the Orion are the same person?
So if the SNW writers want to tell a story involving human Colt and alien Colt being the same person, then they will. But until then, I see no reason for names that are never said on-screen, one of which was only chosen as an easter egg, need to be treated as if they're carved in stone.
And besides, two different people can share the same name. I don't have a common first name or last name and a quick Google search reveals at least four other people with the same combination.
Are fans going to argue that Quark's cousin Gaila and Gaila the Orion are the same person?
It's extenuating circumstances, due in part to Disco's constant showrunner turnover. Desperate Hours was written while Fuller was in charge, and was written to be as consistent with his vision and plans for the show. But then he left, and the subsequent showrunners had different ideas about what to do with the show. Granted, even if the show had kept the same showrunner from season 1 there's no guarantee they wouldn't end up contradicting the novels anyway, but that still doesn't mean we can use this as proof to back anything up, given the circumstances.
Yeah, probably. This is Star Trek fandom afterall.
Only Star Trek fans will deliberately ignore author intent to this kind of degree
Only Star Trek fans would care enough to know that a behind the scenes source called it that.
Now now be fair. Both Doctor Who fandom and Star Wars fandom would care if some such aspect was named by a behind-the-scenes source but not stated on screen as well.
I think it's fair to say that post-2017 Trek is a revised canon. Ships are bigger, everything's modern, makeup designs, technological abilities and general sensibilities are updated to 21st century standards.
And then there's a bunch if weird random changes like Colt and Le-Matrya being a giant spider monster instead if a cat. I can't even use the time wars to explain that stuff
All I need is First Contact, and butterflies from there leading to Enterprise, and the Borg drone, leading to more advanced tech; this, along with Daniel's quarters, and a resurgent Section 31, lead to completely different tech, designs, styles and events by the time SNW and DSC come around.....
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