Because he found Talaxians there that needed leading?
Stories you would have liked to have seen, the Voyager edition.
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If he went back with Voyager, he'd either spend the rest of his life on the ship, or end up the Token Talaxian of the Federation, and never see another of his own kind again. He even said he never expected to see any of his people for the rest of his life.
He got himself a mate after the prospect of lifelong bachelorism. I say good on him. You go Neelix! Do yo thang!
He got himself a mate after the prospect of lifelong bachelorism. I say good on him. You go Neelix! Do yo thang!
Well given Janeway seemed interesting in building a diplomatic and strategic infrastructure in the DQ talaxian membership wouldn't be that far away.
It wasn't a "horrible rock in the middle of nowhere" it was a colony of his own people. And he had an oportunity to build a great life there with a family
If he went back to the AQ with Voyager he probably would have had an ok life. Maybe he would continue to do work as an ambassador or something (he does seem to have skill with that) but i think being the only one of your kind in the whole quadrant would be lonely. Even with friends and companions
After the discovery of a relay station network, in "A Message in the Bottle", which allowed the Doctor to be sent to the QA and to come back after to have managed to contact Starfleet Command with the promise to contact the crew's families to inform them of their survival and to seek a way to retrieve them, Then, in "Hunters", we learnt that Voyager received a garbled transmission from Starfleet Command via the same communications network, which included letters from friends & relatives.
Well, it would have been interesting to witness the reaction of - the latter (Janeway's mother & sister / Harry's parents / Tom's family, especially his father / Seven's aunt and of course, Sam's husband) when a Starfleet officer came to announce the new to them.
-> don't forget that some of them might have given up on them, mourned, proceeded with their lives and/or found some kind of resolution.
- admirals in Starfleet Command, reading and commenting some sections of Janeway's blog, telling about her daily life in DQ, her command decisions, like the enlistment within her crew, of those whom she had to arrest, giving to some of them, some strategic positions aboard with (temporary) Starfleet ranks. I would have adored seeing their heads when they learnt who was Janeway's new XO! .
And then, it would have been interesto
And to end, I would have liked to know what were the intentions of Starfleet command towards Chakotay and his friends? In Caretaker, they were considered as outlaws and were hunted by a vessel of Starfleet. After 7 years, how were admirals going to "greet" them in their return to QA? Enchained between a batailion of Security officers or parading with Starfleet's crew led by Janeway, between a guard of honor? Even in Endgame, there was no reference to their eventual fate. It's a pity!
-> I know, non cannon books and some fanfictions, saw them pardonned and rehired by Starfleet while some others fanfictions and a webserie like Renegades, see them living in seclusion, somewhere on another planet.
Well, it would have been interesting to witness the reaction of - the latter (Janeway's mother & sister / Harry's parents / Tom's family, especially his father / Seven's aunt and of course, Sam's husband) when a Starfleet officer came to announce the new to them.
-> don't forget that some of them might have given up on them, mourned, proceeded with their lives and/or found some kind of resolution.
- admirals in Starfleet Command, reading and commenting some sections of Janeway's blog, telling about her daily life in DQ, her command decisions, like the enlistment within her crew, of those whom she had to arrest, giving to some of them, some strategic positions aboard with (temporary) Starfleet ranks. I would have adored seeing their heads when they learnt who was Janeway's new XO! .
And then, it would have been interesto
And to end, I would have liked to know what were the intentions of Starfleet command towards Chakotay and his friends? In Caretaker, they were considered as outlaws and were hunted by a vessel of Starfleet. After 7 years, how were admirals going to "greet" them in their return to QA? Enchained between a batailion of Security officers or parading with Starfleet's crew led by Janeway, between a guard of honor? Even in Endgame, there was no reference to their eventual fate. It's a pity!
-> I know, non cannon books and some fanfictions, saw them pardonned and rehired by Starfleet while some others fanfictions and a webserie like Renegades, see them living in seclusion, somewhere on another planet.
Actually I recall in season 6 or 7 the fate of the Maquis is referred to-Janeway and Chakotay agree not to worry about it until their home.
What was surely a wise advice for the preservation of the morale of the crew and of course, the discipline on board BUT don't you think that during the numerous contacts she had with Starfleet command afterward, it didn't occur to Janeway to adress, at least once, the issue of the fate which Starfleet/the Federation wished to reserve to the former members of the Maquis and Seven of Nine, an ex-Borg, knowing that the first ones were considered until then, as outlaws, who must be locked and the second ones, as the worst of the enemies that Starfleet/the Federation had to face, so much the Borgs decimated their crews? Seriously?
If there is well things which we learnt on Janeway during her long journey are that, 1) she hated above all, not to be prepared before facing a situation, whatever it was and 2) the well-being and security of her crew went well before hers -> no matter what could happen to her (she is certainly prepared to justify all her breaches in Prime Directive & some of her questionable command decisions) but she shall expect that Starfleet command let her crew alone.
Consequently, I doubt strongly that in view of the sensitive situation of some members of her crew and of which she had perfectly consicience, she didn't try to measure the pulse of her superiors towards them...or then, she would be mighty irresponsible.
I must admit I did get a little sense of that as well. He was where the action was on Voyager and then got stuck with an irritating kid and his Mom with a bunch of other boring Talaxians.
Chakotay said they(meaning the Maquis) hasn't forgot what they were. I imagine he was prepared to face the worst but hoped for the best(a pardon). Any other Maquis that where even reasonably intelligent would have had similar thoughts.What was surely a wise advice for the preservation of the morale of the crew and of course, the discipline on board BUT don't you think that during the numerous contacts she had with Starfleet command afterward, it didn't occur to Janeway to adress, at least once, the issue of the fate which Starfleet/the Federation wished to reserve to the former members of the Maquis and Seven of Nine, an ex-Borg, knowing that the first ones were considered until then, as outlaws, who must be locked and the second ones, as the worst of the enemies that Starfleet/the Federation had to face, so much the Borgs decimated their crews? Seriously?
If there is well things which we learnt on Janeway during her long journey are that, 1) she hated above all, not to be prepared before facing a situation, whatever it was and 2) the well-being and security of her crew went well before hers -> no matter what could happen to her (she is certainly prepared to justify all her breaches in Prime Directive & some of her questionable command decisions) but she shall expect that Starfleet command let her crew alone.
Consequently, I doubt strongly that in view of the sensitive situation of some members of her crew and of which she had perfectly consicience, she didn't try to measure the pulse of her superiors towards them...or then, she would be mighty irresponsible.
Janeway would have advocated full pardons and perhaps reinstatements for those former Starfleet Maquis.
Seven had shown tremendous value and as she said to Chakotay would probably have been thoroughly debriefed for all she was worth and afterwards put under some supervision both for own reintegration into federation society and to ensure she didn't go full Borg back home After that process I imagine she would do as she did in the novels-working for Starfleet-advising on the Borg for a think tank or policy committee of which her talents would have been highly valued.
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I'm sure the Maquis were allowed to go on their way. I don't think Janeway was sent to capture the Maquis, just get Tuvok back. I could be wrong .
Anyway, Chakotay would have been allowed to return to SF, and probably got promoted, if he was interested. B'ellanna probably would want to join Starfleet and no doubt would have been accepted. The would probably give her an immediate commission.
The situation that encouraged people to become "The Maquis" no longer exists. There's no more demilitarised zone. The Cardassians thoroughly violated the treaty and invaded it, and were beaten. I'm sure the Maquis, if any were still alive and "wanted" by the law, would have been exonerated.
Anyway, Chakotay would have been allowed to return to SF, and probably got promoted, if he was interested. B'ellanna probably would want to join Starfleet and no doubt would have been accepted. The would probably give her an immediate commission.
The situation that encouraged people to become "The Maquis" no longer exists. There's no more demilitarised zone. The Cardassians thoroughly violated the treaty and invaded it, and were beaten. I'm sure the Maquis, if any were still alive and "wanted" by the law, would have been exonerated.
There were some Maquis in prison at the time of Hunters so they would legally still be viewed as criminals-Janeway would probably phone in every admiral she knew for pardons though.
At the time of Caretaker, the Maquis were being sent to prison.
There's reference to Maquis in prison as late as Hunters and no doubt Eddington would have chosen to remain in prison had Sisko not dragged him off on Sisko's little quest.
By the time Voyager returned there would still be some push I imagine for imprisonment, if Janeway pulls all the strings she could probably get pardons or at least vastly reduced sentences.
By the time Voyager returned there would still be some push I imagine for imprisonment, if Janeway pulls all the strings she could probably get pardons or at least vastly reduced sentences.
After the events in Endgame, Voyager doesn't end up in the Alpha quadrant. Instead, they find themselves in the territory of a political entity that consists of different races of genetically engineered soldiers and admistrators. Due to some 'forbidden zones' treaty they have to adhere to, they find further progress blocked.
On the other hand, she finds that these enemies have no offensive and defensive weaponry on the level of her deployable armour, transphasic torpedoes, and other nanoprobe-enhanced stuff. By virtue of some demonstration of their offensive and defensive capabilities, Janeway manages to bluff her way into contacting higher and higher representatives of this entity, until she gets to speak to one of the leaders, a representative of an almost mythical people that reputedly have the power to assume any shape they want.
They come to an agreement: free passage through their territory and an escort in exchange for any futuristic technology Janeway brought with her. They want to use the weaponry to exact revenge on their enemy 'on the other side of the galaxy' "that made them surrender their troops for the first time in 10.000 years".
Janeway: 'screw those faraway aliens, we just wanna go home. Give them the nanoprobes and all other specs, 7! That's an order!'
On the other hand, she finds that these enemies have no offensive and defensive weaponry on the level of her deployable armour, transphasic torpedoes, and other nanoprobe-enhanced stuff. By virtue of some demonstration of their offensive and defensive capabilities, Janeway manages to bluff her way into contacting higher and higher representatives of this entity, until she gets to speak to one of the leaders, a representative of an almost mythical people that reputedly have the power to assume any shape they want.
They come to an agreement: free passage through their territory and an escort in exchange for any futuristic technology Janeway brought with her. They want to use the weaponry to exact revenge on their enemy 'on the other side of the galaxy' "that made them surrender their troops for the first time in 10.000 years".
Janeway: 'screw those faraway aliens, we just wanna go home. Give them the nanoprobes and all other specs, 7! That's an order!'
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I always wondered how they would have reacted to a dominion victory. I always imagined Starfleet would send them a communique telling them to flee.
An end to the Malon storyline, putting all the garbage dumpers out of business.
Why don't we see more ecumenopolises in Trek?
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