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STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

I don't understand why this movie had to have a $190 million budget. That meant that it basically had to make well over $300 million just to be a moderate success. The bloated budgets on these blockbusters now are ridiculous, it leaves no room for error. Had STID had a budget of $100 million it'd be doing well.

I'm not sure it would be the same movie at $100 million.
 
You could make a Star Trek movie for $100 million, but you couldn't make one like Star Trek Into Darkness (or Star Trek (2009) for that matter).
 
The worst thing that will happen is they'll drop the budget down a little bit. Which won't necessarily be a problem. They have a lot of standing sets and props from two films now, they can still make it work for say 120 million.
 
In fact, pay particular attention to the 10-day gross. It's far behind 09 Trek.
Star Trek's 12-day gross was $155,536,131. STiD's is $156,013,879. STiD will likely fall behind some after the third weekend domestically, but it's making significant gains in foreign box office.

The worst thing that will happen is they'll drop the budget down a little bit. Which won't necessarily be a problem. They have a lot of standing sets and props from two films now, they can still make it work for say 120 million.
They may well trim the budget, but I can't see them going below $150-160 million.
 
They reduced the budget from TMP to TWOK and also TFF to TUC. It's something Paramount in the past has been shown to do to cut costs.
 
Since they have a contract for three films, I doubt it.

They will likely "mutually agree to go a different direction". It happens all the time.

Do you really believe that Abrams will go directly from Star Wars back to Star Trek in May 2015?

I certainly don't.
 
Well, it's not just about how much it makes back. It's about how much it cost to make. Those two numbers, along with whatever was spent for advertisement, should always be considered when discussing the box office return.

Examples. If you spend 80 million on one movie, and then 120 million on the next, and your returns are 150 and 155 respectively, you've just barely gotten yourself out in front of your budget the second time, and hardly made any traction in expanding the audience. Some will respond to that by saying that the foreign markets are doing much better this time around. Yes, that's true, but they had to buy those numbers in advertisement. That could give the studio significant pause on putting another big budget down.
 
They reduced the budget from TMP to TWOK and also TFF to TUC. It's something Paramount in the past has been shown to do to cut costs.

To split hairs, Paramount didn't reduce the budget between the fifth and sixth features -- they just kept it the same. According to Nick Meyer's book, at least one higher up at Paramount (I forget who) regretted they didn't spend more money after seeing the finished movie.
 
I'd imagine it is cheapest for Paramount to film on their own lot in California :) If not that, then some states in the midwest are offering big tax breaks to bring in movie studios, but they would have to choose the right time of year, because it can get very cold in the upper midwest.
 
Where did they film STID? At least they won't have to rebuild all the Enterprise sets if they kept them in storage, which saves a ton of money.
 
I predicted a $180 million international gross... But said if China made $30-35 million it could bring it up to $200 million.

wow stid only lost 32%....goaod reviews and wom!
 
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country cost approximately $30 million to make which I'm not sure what the equivalent is today. Maybe $100 million?

That movie was so well written, and masterfully directed by Nick Meyer that it was a huge success. To me, from the score...sound and special effects and writing, it was really a beautiful movie...the best in the series IMHO.

My point is that you can do more with less if the movie is written, directed, and produced properly. What's sad to me, and I hope that I'm wrong, is that after Star Trek 3 is released, it will be a miracle to re-assemble this cast in it's entirety for a 4th Trek. There is always a sour apple or two in the group that won't want to come back, or will want an exorbitant amount of money to do so.

I loved Into Darkness but, $190 million to me is a ridiculous budget for a Trek movie. I hope this franchise goes on for many more movies but, it's not likely due to these escalating budgets. Again...I hope I'm wrong.
 
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