STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

[The Doctor]

I hate to interrupt, but STID has made more money to date than Trek '09 did, by about 55 million dollars.

Yep.

No shit?

Assuming you guys aren't lying, this is seriously the most hilarious thing I've heard in the past week!

After two weekends:
STID Domestic: $155 million
STID International: $102 million

Trek '09 Domestic: $155 million
Trek '09 International: $50 million.

Source: http://boxofficemojo.com

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

I hate to interrupt, but STID has made more money to date than Trek '09 did, by about 55 million dollars. The foreign take is double what it was at this point in the first movie's run.

Star Trek had made $70 million foreign at this point in its release. STiD has made $102 million. Star Trek was playing in more markets at that point, though. STiD has made about $32 million more worldwide than Star Trek after the same number of days in release.

With the bigger budget, the bigger worldwide marketing push and the 3D release, Paramount would have hoped for over $500 million worldwide, with $450 million being decent, but not all they hoped for, and anything less being disappointing. The domestic legs and the foreign increases so far will hopefully put STiD over the $450 million worldwide mark by the end of its run. If it hits $500 million then they got the numbers they wanted, albeit with a slightly bumpier ride domestically than expected.

 

[DarthTom]

We shall see what, exactly? There's going to be a third film by the same production company featuring the same cast.

If it hits the 1/2 billion + dollars that many predicted it would.
Making another film is a foregone conclusion. A $190 million budget next go around I'd wager is not.

Edited to add: I'm sure the studio is also banking on huge $$ in DVD sales.

Also, IIRC movie studios are less happy with overseas numbers because the profit sharing agreement between distributors and the cinema are different than in the US where the studio gets the lion share of the money.

 

[DarthTom]

Star Trek had made $70 million foreign at this point in its release. STiD has made $102 million. Star Trek was playing in more markets at that point, though. STiD has made about $32 million more worldwide than Star Trek after the same number of days in release.

Don't shoot the messenger even the NY Times agrees with my assessment:

That total was on the low end of expectations; box office analysts had predicted $80 million to $100 million for the movie’s opening stretch. But “Star Trek Into Darkness,” which cost Paramount and Skydance about $190 million to make, is on track to double the overseas total of “Star Trek,” the film’s 2009 franchise predecessor, which was a bit of an international dud. Audiences in North America gave the well-reviewed “Star Trek Into Darkness” an A score in exit polls, boding well for word of mouth — although the multiplex competition ahead is steep.

 

[beamMe]

Star Trek had made $70 million foreign at this point in its release. STiD has made $102 million. Star Trek was playing in more markets at that point, though. STiD has made about $32 million more worldwide than Star Trek after the same number of days in release.

Don't shoot the messenger even the NY Times agrees with my assessment:

That total was on the low end of expectations; box office analysts had predicted $80 million to $100 million for the movie’s opening stretch. But “Star Trek Into Darkness,” which cost Paramount and Skydance about $190 million to make, is on track to double the overseas total of “Star Trek,” the film’s 2009 franchise predecessor, which was a bit of an international dud. Audiences in North America gave the well-reviewed “Star Trek Into Darkness” an A score in exit polls, boding well for word of mouth — although the multiplex competition ahead is steep.

So the analysts were wrong.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Don't shoot the messenger even the NY Times agrees with my assessment

If you think I haven't acknowledged certain weaknesses in the film's performance you're mistaken. As things stand now, the opening was below expectations, but the legs are good so far. The domestic gross will be lower than Paramount hoped for, but the foreign increases give the film a good chance to end up in the $450 million range, which would be decent. The $500 million worldwide Paramount no doubt hoped for is probably a bridge too far, but we'll see how the foreign numbers unfold in the territories to go.

 

[DarthTom]

If you think I haven't acknowledged certain weaknesses in the film's performance you're mistaken. As things stand now, the opening was below expectations, but the legs are good so far. The domestic gross will be lower than Paramount hoped for, but the foreign increases give the film a good chance to end up in the $450 million range, which would be decent. The $500 million worldwide Paramount no doubt hoped for is probably a bridge too far, but we'll see how the foreign numbers unfold in the territories to go.

Lets chat about it next Monday and we'll see where we're at.

 

[Squiggy]

Plus I look at STiD's #3 spot like this. It was only just barely #3. Hangover III did a mere 4 million more in business which in big movie release terms means that they were more or less tied.

Considering that STID opened at a huge number of IMAX locations and that it was in 3-D at a higher ticket price than the previous film + that Paramount make a big effort to promote and even release the film overseas first - coupled with the fact that they hired an international film star, Cumberbatch and it didn't, 'hit it out of the park,' with over $100 million opening weekend - I'd wager that the beancounters at Paramount are disappointed.

But, go right ahead an put the happy face on the numbers.

We shall see.

As an aside, I wonder if Paramount is worried about their next big release in June, World War Z, which they've also put a subsantial financial stake into?

I'm sure that Iron Man however has pleased everyone at Paramount this summer however.

You did this same shit with ST09.

 

[Quinton O'Connor]

Indeed we will, and Out Of My Vulcan Mind is nothing if not just as excited to see those numbers, I am sure.

In the meantime, what do we know about potential competition in Summer 2016? I think one thing that isn't on a lot of minds yet is that there may very well be not a Star Wars Episode but a Star Wars spinoff flick of some fashion at around the same time. Judgment on the Abrams-directed Episode VII will have something of an impact on how strongly that performs, but doubtless it will do well enough in general.

 

[LOKAI of CHERON]

But, go right ahead an put the happy face on the numbers.

We shall see.

The film will almost certainly turn a healthy, but not spectacular, profit (probably coming in at around $430-450m), guaranteeing a third Bad Robot entry.

And, if the budget comes down to $150m or so, I am extremely confident a few judicious creative choices will result in no discernible drop in scope for the next one.

But, go right ahead and put a sad face on the numbers.

We shall see.

 

[dahj]

there may very well be not a Star Wars Episode but a Star Wars spinoff flick of some fashion at around the same time.

Episode VII is 2015, 2016 should be free of big screen Star Wars.
Disney will milk SW for all it's worth, but I highly doubt they'll have movie releases every year.

 

[LOKAI of CHERON]

...but I highly doubt they'll have movie releases every year.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they've stated they'll do!

 

[Quinton O'Connor]

Yeah, that's literally what they said. :P

 

[Quinton O'Connor]

So, I'm wondering: will May 2016 see the fight between Klingons and Yoda we've all been secretly waiting for?

What, just me?

 

[dahj]

Actually, I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they've stated they'll do!

Oh wow, I see I've severely underestimated Micky Mouse's greed ::ferengi::

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Lets chat about it next Monday and we'll see where we're at.

I think it'll be at around $185 million domestic after its third weekend.

In the meantime, what do we know about potential competition in Summer 2016? I think one thing that isn't on a lot of minds yet is that there may very well be not a Star Wars Episode but a Star Wars spinoff flick of some fashion at around the same time. Judgment on the Abrams-directed Episode VII will have something of an impact on how strongly that performs, but doubtless it will do well enough in general.

We might see The Amazing Spider-Man 3 kick off May 2016 and then the release of a Star Wars film later in the month.

 

[Quinton O'Connor]

Ah, yeah, that movie. I'm not very good at keeping track of all the superhero blockbusters, so I'm relying on everyone else for that! Yup, comes right down to it, I'm pretty much a spacer.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

From BoxOffice.com on Twitter:

STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS: $47.19M 4-Day Weekend Actual / $156.01M Domestic Total / 3,907 Locations / $12,078 Location Avg. #StarTrekIntoDarkness

No daily breakdown yet.

 

[Quinton O'Connor]

Neat. 45-48 was the range some claimed a tad too optimistic and others thought reasonable, right? Yay!

 

[LOKAI of CHERON]

Naysayers and pessimists be damned, that's a really decent figure and an extremely strong "hold".