Stephen Collins is Apparently a Child Molester

[Squiggy]

Stephen Collins admits on tape to doing some bad things.

Don't really know when it happened, but he admitted in a secretly taped counseling session to some heinous things. At least 3 victims.

NYPD is currently investigating.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

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Seeing as it's TMZ, I will wait for real confirmation.
If true, it's sick and he should pay.

 

[BriGuy]

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Multiple reports.

http://www.people.com/article/stephen-collins-alleged-child-molestation
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...llins-admits-molesting-girl-article-1.1965747

But Captain Decker is a fictional character; actor Stephen Collins is allegedly a child molester.

 

[Squiggy]

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Since he played a one off character 35 years ago, I figured more of the fandom would recognize Decker rather than Collins.

But thanks for letting us know that the people in the movies aren't real.

 

[Cyke101]

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Since he played a one off character 35 years ago, I figured more of the fandom would recognize Decker rather than Collins.

But thanks for letting us know that the people in the movies aren't real.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if more of the fandom identified Collins more as Rev. Camden than Captain Decker at this point. Even for a Trekkie, 11 seasons can trump one movie.

 

[BriGuy]

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Since he played a one off character 35 years ago, I figured more of the fandom would recognize Decker rather than Collins.

But thanks for letting us know that the people in the movies aren't real.

You're welcome.

Since so many people get so upset about the "deaths" of fictional characters, maybe it is a good clarification to make.

And I agree, even though I never watched 7th Heaven, he's much more likely to be associated and known for that show than his appearance in pajamas in one movie from so long ago. Although I fully expect pictures of "the bulge" to re-emerge now...

 

[Nightowl1701]

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Apparently his own ex-wife (The original V's Faye Grant) set him up with a 'therapy' session after he privately confessed his crimes to her in a letter. (Sounds almost like he wanted to be taken down, huh?) Faye taped the whole thing and went straight to the NYPD - by way of TMZ.

They're gonna throw the book at Collins. Between his 'good guy reverend' role on 7'th Heaven and both Jimmy Savile and Michael Jackson escaping justice...yeah, he's done.

God, this whole thing just sucks. I'm nauseous.

 

[BriGuy]

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And the news keeps coming:

'Ted 2' fires Stephen Collins after molestation allegations

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/10/07/ted-2-drops-stephen-collins/

This writeup does mention his part in The Motion Picture.

 

[Melakon]

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It's a disappointment to see this. I'd first noticed Collins in 1976, when he was in All the President's Men.

 

[A beaker full of death]

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Stephen Collins admits on tape to doing some bad things.

Don't really know when it happened, but he admitted in a secretly taped counseling session to some heinous things. At least 3 victims.

NYPD is currently investigating.

"Child molester" and "heinous" are exaggerations. He exposed himself to two girls - one of them three times when she was the ages of 10, 11 and 13 - and the other one once. He also put the first girl's hand on his penis for a moment.

It seems he has also attempted to make amends to the girls over the course of the years since.

Obviously, he is - or at least was - a very sick man, and I in no way mean to minimize or make light of his actions. But they should not be exaggerated, either.

 

[Squiggy]

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He made an 11 year old girl touch his penis. Even if it's only fleeting, it's by definition molestation.

And I guess we have differing definitions of "heinous". I'm not a journalist, I can call it what I want.

 

[USS Triumphant]

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Michael Jackson escaping justice...

Proof?

 

[dub]

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Since he played a one off character 35 years ago, I figured more of the fandom would recognize Decker rather than Collins.

I'm pretty sure most fans who have found their way into this subforum know who Stephen Collins is.

"Child molester" and "heinous" are exaggerations. He exposed himself to two girls - one of them three times when she was the ages of 10, 11 and 13 - and the other one once. He also put the first girl's hand on his penis for a moment.

That's just all that he has allegedly admitted to, that's not necessarily all he has done. More disturbing details are already surfacing. It's so sad. Sad for the victims, sad for his family, just sad all the way around.

 

[BillJ]

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He made an 11 year old girl touch his penis. Even if it's only fleeting, it's by definition molestation.

And I guess we have differing definitions of "heinous". I'm not a journalist, I can call it what I want.

+1

 

[Nightowl1701]

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Michael Jackson escaping justice...

Proof?

If only there were any, one way or the other.

Let me clarify: In the eyes of those who believe Michael Jackson was guilty (which would include most of the press), he escaped justice. Sadly, there's been so much BS slung around over the years that witnesses on both sides are no longer credible, and we will never know for sure whether it was true or not.

My personal take (full disclosure) is where there was THAT much smoke - over that many years, both when the money and fame were clearly gone and even years after he was dead - there had to have at least been sparks.

 

[Shane Houston]

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Yeah. I read this early this morning, and when I think about it it makes me sick. I mean it's one thing because of the TMP uniforms not to keep it in his pants, but to abuse children is another. And no, I'm not making jokes.

I won't lie, I don't think I'll ever be able to watch TMP again. I quit listening to Michael Jackson for the same reason. As a survivor of sexual abuse, it just ruins whatever the genre.

 

[Captaindemotion]

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I heard the recording online earlier. Seemed pretty convincing to me, assuming that's his voice (sounded like him and answered to 'Stephen').

And FWIW, I think that showing your penis to pre-adolescent girls and making them touch it makes you a child molester. Perhaps not the most serious incidence of child abuse, but abuse nonetheless.

 

[USS Triumphant]

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both when the money and fame were clearly gone and even years after he was dead - there had to have at least been sparks.

His fame isn't gone, and apparently he still has an estate to go after. None of the celebrities who ever had sleepovers at Neverland as children have ever come forward to say anything was done to them - actually, quite the opposite, they defend their friend. Maybe I'm naive, maybe I just want to be able to listen to the music that was such a big part of my growing up, but I believe he was innocent.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

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What troubles me is that these first allegations come from the soon-to-be ex-wife and another grown woman with a husband. Why are we not hearing this from the families of the alleged victims? It concerns me that this may not be what it looks like, especially that in the lawyer gave Ms. Grant bad advice.
http://stimmel-law.com/fr/articles/secret_recording_conversations_ca.html

If the recording had been made in New York, she wouldn't have just opened herself to civil and criminal litigation. Why didn't she take the letter to the cops in the first place if she was having such a pang of conscience? If anything, she's done some damage because if this is brought in the state of California, then he will walk free!

ETA: I don't know if he's guilty or not. But it really bugs me that if she was having pangs of conscience that TMZ suddenly has a recording of the alleged confession and that such a recording was obtained in a state where such recording is not likely to be admissible in a court proceeding. So these girls, if they or their families are able to come forward, will be denied justice.

 

[A beaker full of death]

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Having heard the recording, I'd like to have more context. He keeps speaking of a "disclosure", and of having tried to make amends at some point. There's more here than we know.
Now, none of that changes the acts themselves, which he admits to (if the tape is genuine, and I think it is). It's not even a mitigating factor. But if he's taken affirmative steps to address the wrongs he has done, I'd like to know.