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This feels more like connecting-the-dots and trying to ape the modern TV trope of a two-part (or two-hour) finale. If STC is really trying to be as if the original was never cancelled, it'd be an interesting exercise to figure out how the original would've ended the show in 1971-72.
I'm pretty sure it would have ended with Kirk finally catching the One Armed Klingon, Spock seeing Bones spell out "Goodbye" in tribbles on the hangar deck, and Denny Crane waking up to realize it was all a dream.
 
This feels more like connecting-the-dots and trying to ape the modern TV trope of a two-part (or two-hour) finale. If STC is really trying to be as if the original was never cancelled, it'd be an interesting exercise to figure out how the original would've ended the show in 1971-72.
Yeah, that does raise interesting questions. How can you set the stage for TMP when in 1970 or so there would be no idea whatsoever that TMP would ever happen?
 
I'd like the last scene to be Kirk riding his horse into the sunset. (Preferably somewhere in Iowa, but I guess Kingsland, GA will do).
 
I'd like the last scene to be Kirk riding his horse into the sunset. (Preferably somewhere in Iowa, but I guess Kingsland, GA will do).

IDK. Seems like with the way they acted during STMP at the beginning they did not end the 5year mission and happily go their separate ways. It was more like a breakup of the band. I hope I am wrong though.
 
IDK. Seems like with the way they acted during STMP at the beginning they did not end the 5year mission and happily go their separate ways. It was more like a breakup of the band. I hope I am wrong though.
If one goes by some of the references in GR's novelization of TMP then there could be some ideas to be had there.

Nonetheless if they want the ending to seem at least somewhat authentic then it should be open ended to a degree so that we could be left wondering what happens next. I don't think it would ring true to be too specific in connecting to a film that nobody would have known would exist a decade later.


This goes back to an issue I've had with STC since the beginning. They have repeatedly stated they wanted to be as authentic and faithful as possible with the idea of doing the stories as if it were 1969 again. That means you could not really and directly reference something from another Trek production that, of course, did not yet exist (even as an idea) in 1969. They have been largely faithful to that, but occasionally they have let certain small things slip in that never could have been there back in the day.

To that end it will be interesting to see how they can write a final that sets things up for TMP without making any direct references to things in TMP.
 
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Yeah, I actually hope they stay away from most of that stuff. Especially since that was NV/P2's stated goal. I'd rather just get an open ended season of stories, in the vein of 1960/1970s television.

If somehow they get new sets funded for a TMP series, then thats different, of course. They can do story arcs, 2 parters and connect the dots all they want, there, IMO.... since thats the 5YM that should end with something huge causing the ship's retirement, Kirk's desk-benching, and the Enterprise becoming a training vessel, with a militarized vibe and dressed up uniforms.
 
With the challenge of financing their last batch of episodes I'm highly doubtful they could mount anything remotely resembling the TMP style sets.

But after STC has its run I wonder if they have any ideas beyond that.
 
It might be wishful thinking, but I am still hoping. Vic's approaching the right age, they have proven what they are capable of, and they have a lot of quality help. If anyone could pull it off, IMO, it would be STC. If done right, it could be used for the next decade of fan productions in some form or another.

The easier thing to do would be to backtrack and do a Cage/WTMHGB era retrostyling of the sets for a true prequel series, but, much like the original show's fans, i'm sure, i've grown attatched to the STC cast, and would prefer to see them reprise their roles in the next series. (not to rile up inter-camp tensions, either, but how funny would it be if the STC crew managed to put together a better "Phase 2" then the Phase 2 guys..... lol.
 
^^ I doubt they would go the Phase II route. And that could stir up a hornet's nest. Better not go there.

I like the idea of restyling the sets to "The Cage" era and getting a new cast for it. Pick up where "The Cage" left off and explore the road not taken. 13 or so episodes of that could rock! Vic could wear one less hat by not being in the cast and work for their usual quality behind the camera.
 
If one goes by some of the references in GR's novelization of TMP then there could be some ideas to be had there.

Nonetheless if they want the ending to seem at least somewhat authentic then it should be open ended to a degree so that we could be left wondering what happens next. I don't think it would ring true to be too specific in connecting to a film that nobody would have known would exist a decade later.


This goes back to an issue I've had with STC since the beginning. They have repeatedly stated they wanted to be as authentic and faithful as possible with the idea of doing the stories as if it were 1969 again. That means you could not really and directly reference something from another Trek production that, of course, did not yet exist (even as an idea) in 1969. They have been largely faithful to that, but occasionally they have let certain small things slip in that never could have been there back in the day.

To that end it will be interesting to see how they can write a final that sets things up for TMP without making any direct references to things in TMP.

Well, we know something will make Spock and McCoy leave Starfleet. Whether Kolinahr will be mentioned is up in the air, but I wouldn't be surprised because they've already referred to katra. Those two leaving, plus Kirk becoming a chair-bound paper-pusher, are the three elements they are sure to include, because they keep saying they will.
 
It might be wishful thinking, but I am still hoping. Vic's approaching the right age, they have proven what they are capable of, and they have a lot of quality help. If anyone could pull it off, IMO, it would be STC. If done right, it could be used for the next decade of fan productions in some form or another.
^^ I doubt they would go the Phase II route. And that could stir up a hornet's nest. Better not go there.

I like the idea of restyling the sets to "The Cage" era and getting a new cast for it. Pick up where "The Cage" left off and explore the road not taken. 13 or so episodes of that could rock! Vic could wear one less hat by not being in the cast and work for their usual quality behind the camera.

Well, any production that attempts to do the TMP sets and the "post TMP" 5YM is going to fall into that sandbox. I've always had a problem with "Phase 2" being crammed into the last year of the original 5YM and taking place *before* TMP when it was clearly meant to air (instead of, but we'll go with) after it. So all I meant was that whoever ends up doing it with the TMP aesthetics and sets, music and FX, will, by its own nature, be doing P2 better then the P2 people.

Hrm, if they insist on needing to connect the dots, a prequel Cage series with Vic directing, could definitely be fun, especially if we see the likes of Kelso, Mitchell, the doctor (I always get confused on which one is Piper, and which one is Boyce), or even Commander Kirk, get assigned to the Enterprise by its final couple episodes.

Well, we know something will make Spock and McCoy leave Starfleet. Whether Kolinahr will be mentioned is up in the air, but I wouldn't be surprised because they've already referred to katra. Those two leaving, plus Kirk becoming a chair-bound paper-pusher, are the three elements they are sure to include, because they keep saying they will.

its just bothersome that both TOS productions want to conclude their series in a similar dot connecting way, I guess.
 
Its great when its done tastefully; i just don't want both productions tackling the same material in different ways. Its redundant.
 
I think I have a pretty good idea what “a thing that has been seen in many TOS episodes but no other fan production has had so far” would be and if you follow the news regularly, it should not come as a total surprise. Even more looking forward to the Fedcon screening now! So excited!


And I’ll definitely give money as well – just haven’t decided yet which of the perks I want.
 
I think I have a pretty good idea what “a thing that has been seen in many TOS episodes but no other fan production has had so far” would be and if you follow the news regularly, it should not come as a total surprise.

As I recall, he said it was seen in some episodes and mentioned in others. Care to tell us your guess?
 
Something seen or referenced in TOS before, but not done in a fan production.

A set seen in TOS' first season recreated for their production, apart from the Engineering set.

If Vic said this in the interview, then Someone who knows TOS better than me might be able to narrow it down to an educated guess.
 
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