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The only function of the atrium, IMO, is for the psychological health of the crew. Would you want to be stuck inside the same corridors day after day, with no variation, and no open areas?
 
Well, (I think the atrium is cool but) as far wide open areas go, check out the view out a window! ;)

Which wouldn't be all that great in outer space; lots and lots of black emptiness, a dark void of nothingness, an endless chasm of ... I'll go for a walk in the atrium. ;)
 
Well, (I think the atrium is cool but) as far wide open areas go, check out the view out a window! ;)

Which wouldn't be all that great in outer space; lots and lots of black emptiness, a dark void of nothingness, an endless chasm of ... I'll go for a walk in the atrium. ;)

Really? Pretty much every warpstreak effect looks to me like an awesome screensaver. Would be more fun than just looking down or up a donuthole that likely comes off as a poor architect's version of the Museum of Modern Art building.
 
Well, (I think the atrium is cool but) as far wide open areas go, check out the view out a window! ;)

Which wouldn't be all that great in outer space; lots and lots of black emptiness, a dark void of nothingness, an endless chasm of ... I'll go for a walk in the atrium. ;)

Really? Pretty much every warpstreak effect looks to me like an awesome screensaver. Would be more fun than just looking down or up a donuthole that likely comes off as a poor architect's version of the Museum of Modern Art building.

Ivanova: It's just that I've always had trouble waking up when it is dark outside.
Sinclair: Commander, we're on a space station. It is always dark outside.
Ivanova: [forlornly] I know... I know...

;)
 
So, for what it's worth, in Cinefex one of the effects guys was quoted as saying that during the pan up and down the plaza, there were 5 decks above and 8 decks below added digitally.

So that gives us roughly 13 or 14 decks in the saucer.
 
While Googling, I came across a pretty cool bridge plan made by ancient back in 2009. The front is a little inaccurate, but I figured it was close enough to see if the bridge and plaza would really fit inside a 2380' Enterprise. Going by a guesstimate bridge width of 50', and corridor height of 8' (giving a plaza width of 60'), they fit!
bridge_deck_plan1.jpg

Although I'm not so sure there's room for those corridors around the bridge we see. But it's close enough for me:)
 
According to this article, the forthcoming 36" USS Vengeance model is 1:1600 scale - making the "real" ship 4800-feet long, or 1463.04 meters.

Full specs:
Length: 4800'/1463.04m
Width: 2400'/731.52m
Height: 1133.33'/345.34m
 
What, you can't afford one? *fans self with iPad*











(I wish!)

For 10 grand I would expect it to be able to fly and fire torpedoes at people I don't like. :devil:

It looks amazing and confirms the Vengeance to be comparable in size to a Romulan Warbird from TNG and later as many here have said.

The question now is how big will the capital class Klingon ships be in the next film (assuming it to be Klingon war oriented), or even the Romulan capital ships if they are involved as in the TOS timeline the Romulan ship that we saw was pretty weak.
 
According to this article, the forthcoming 36" USS Vengeance model is 1:1600 scale - making the "real" ship 4800-feet long, or 1463.04 meters.

Full specs:
Length: 4800'/1463.04m
Width: 2400'/731.52m
Height: 1133.33'/345.34m


Looks great, then I scrolled down to the price and died...
Consider what the price-tag on their Enterprise was, though...

http://store.qmxonline.com/Star-Trek-2009-Enterprise-Artisan-Replica_p_147.html
 
RE: Purpose of the atrium. With a vessel as large as the Enterprise, built for long voyages, it makes sense that a central core would exist around which officers and crew can navigate the ship. If your lost, go to the atrium core, and you can see which deck you want to get to, and navigate from there.

It also adds a sense of space, much like the lobby area of a large building.

It is always a good idea to have features such as this in a large complex to give a basic sense of geography beyond random corridors.

A starship could be traveling for a weeks or months at a time, and it's not good to have the crew feel confined.
 
It would also help with moving cargo between decks - stick in some kind of crane, use anti-gravity lifts, or just turn of the gravity inside period and you could move stuff around without resorting to turbolifts or stairs.
 
It would also help with moving cargo between decks - stick in some kind of crane, use anti-gravity lifts, or just turn of the gravity inside period and you could move stuff around without resorting to turbolifts or stairs.

Not to mention, it's probably all around safer for there to always be no gravity outside of the walking surfaces, so that if the ship is getting banged around and people are getting thrown over the rails, there's less chance of injuries.
 
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