Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard
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The TOS Connie is still the most beautiful starship design in the franchise. 
I mean it's classic. The others are just vehicles.
The TOS Connie is still the most beautiful starship design in the franchise.
Apparently the producers of DSC and SNW didn’t think so…
I also think the Enterprise-D fits the ‘classic’ category. But yes, ask a non-Trek fan to describe the Enterprise, and the TOS version is what they’re gonna remember.
No, they just realized a 1960s design does not hold up in the 21st century.
The TOS Connie is beautiful for the era it was designed it. It does not look good next to the NX-01 there IMO.
I disagree. I think the TOS Enterprise looks better than the NX-01. And I do think it would hold up today, with minimal tweaks to the design. It’s more the interiors that wouldn’t hold up.
Not by a long shot.
YMMV.
I think it’s a bit of the “James Bond” thing.
everyone grew up with “their James Bond” either Connery, Moore, Brosnan, etc…
but 90% of the time when someone asks who is James Bond, people (the general public, etc…) will think/say Sean Connery. If you bring up the USS Enterprise most people will think of the TOS ship.
it doesn’t mean the others are lesser, not good, etc… it was just the first. It’s the one that set the “cultural footprint”.
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He was showing it off because it was a cool birthday present. It has nothing to do with the show. The artist who made it is also not associated with the show.
All of which I am sure is true. But, it does seem oddly coincidental that he would post so predominantly THAT ship at a time when we know we are going to a place that would make perfect sense, and probably be the last opportunity, to showcase the refit NX-01.
The tea leaves are telling me that we're going to see her. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
I don't think I'm wrong.
We're going to see the NX-01, it won't be the refit. It's not the refit on the Frontier Day Posters.
Quite right, quite right. I'm still not one who finds any issues with the ship being redesigned or updated for current effects because the TOS version is classic and will remain so. The fact that the artists in charge of SNW decided to do their own version is what artists do, not a comment on the quality of the original.
As for the D, well, I imagine for many TNG fans it has that classic quality.
Well, cars can get an Antique tag after 25 years.. been 35 years since Tng started..
So I'm an antique? Damn, that hurts...
That makes me so antique I was stolen to put in the British Museum in the 1970s.
Time does not wait for us to accept it, sadly. I refuse to believe I am an antique, but I am ignored.
Sean Connery set the stage, Pierce Brosnan was great, Daniel Craig is a great reimagining.
The TOS set the stage, but the DISC/SNW is a great "upscaling" of it in my opinion. I won't say reimagining, that to me is more Kelvinesque. The difference to me is I can "squint" and see the SNW version in the TOS and vice versa. I can't with the Kelvin-prise.
I don't hate the Ent-D. I just don't think it has aged well. I'm not ever going to not grin stupidly when I see it online, though. Both can be true at once.
Sean Connery set the stage, Pierce Brosnan was great, Daniel Craig is a great reimagining.
The TOS set the stage, but the DISC/SNW is a great "upscaling" of it in my opinion. I won't say reimagining, that to me is more Kelvinesque. The difference to me is I can "squint" and see the SNW version in the TOS and vice versa. I can't with the Kelvin-prise.
I don't hate the Ent-D. I just don't think it has aged well. I'm not ever going to not grin stupidly when I see it online, though. Both can be true at once.
Yup.
I was once called "vintage" by a pre-teen client. I still find that highly amusing.
To be fair, we have no sense of perspective in that shot (IE - we don't know exactly how far both ships are in relation to each other in either of those shots. They're using the 'rule of cool/'do what looks good on screen' for the audience in both those shots.)They never gave a length on screen, but Doug Drexler's cutaway of the Connie which was used in that episode is scaled to 400 range so the TOS set heights can fit inside.
The side by side shots of the NX-09 and the Defiant, I don't think it is 400 meters long if you go with the NX-Class being 225 meters long, which also isn't canon but was used by VFX team.
the at warp shot the Avenger looks like it could be 225, but not that other shot, it looks way smaller
IMO though - still shows that the original TOS Connie design looked fine at HD resolution on a modern TV screen.
