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Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

They never gave a length on screen, but Doug Drexler's cutaway of the Connie which was used in that episode is scaled to 400 range so the TOS set heights can fit inside.

The side by side shots of the NX-09 and the Defiant, I don't think it is 400 meters long if you go with the NX-Class being 225 meters long, which also isn't canon but was used by VFX team.

the at warp shot the Avenger looks like it could be 225, but not that other shot, it looks way smaller
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The Defiant is larger, but one shot is from the left and the other from the right, so the perspective is different.
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Getting any orthos at all, let alone official ones, is like pulling teeth from chickens these days. The days when we'd have that sort of thing almost as soon as the film material came out seem to be well over.
Why not? People rip out the stuff any way? Why should the artists waste the time!?

The sets did too. Thus putting the lie to the claim they needed to "update" anything for modern audiences.
From a certain point of view.

I enjoy TOS but I do not think the sets do well under HD nor would they sell to a modern audience without some alternation. Even in the video that was posted about Worf's make up, they did a silicon prosthetic in line with current technology to hold up under the HD filming process, i.e. lines are not as visible, etc.

The idea that no updating whatsoever is needed is one that I do not agree with. Mileage will vary.
 
I think the sets…at least the ones recreated for Enterprise look fine in HD but they do very much look like something from a different era.

And the original Connie looks fantastic in TOS-R, Enterprise and Trials and Tribbleations. All in HD. But as you say YMMV.

But this whole “modern audience” argument never really moves me. If they had painstakingly recreated TOS sets and overall design aesthetic for Discovery I don’t think anyone would have batted an eye, shut off the tv in disgust, rolled their eyes and kept scrolling thru P+, etc…
 
But this whole “modern audience” argument never really moves me. If they had painstakingly recreated TOS sets and overall design aesthetic for Discovery I don’t think anyone would have batted an eye, shut off the tv in disgust, rolled their eyes and kept scrolling thru P+, etc…
I know people who do just that with TWOK due to effects alone.
 
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Had they recreated the sets and ships exactly I would have still watched. But I would have said the exact same things I'm saying now, they don't fit for the modern television era.

The TOS Enterprise is my third favourite Enterprise design.
 
The recreations for Enterprise, both CG and sets, were brilliantly done, beautiful, and completely unacceptable for a new television production. This is why they're not being used as was.

Did anyone seriously think they were going to make carbon copies of the TOS sets and models for DSC and SNW?
 
Shit, I adore the TOS set designs and what ENT did to recreate the classic look and even I would make the blinky indicator light readouts more interactive, touchscreen and dynamic and used more software displays on the bridge.
 
Someone did. The Venn diagram may or may not have strong overlap with Axanar supporters...:shifty:
Which is funny when you consider the sets they did build for Axanar look more modern than the TOS Bridge. Heck the main ship looks more advanced than the Enterprise, and that series is set pre-launch of the Constitution.
 
Which is funny when you consider the sets they did built for that look more modern than the TOS Bridge. Heck the main ship looks more advanced than the Enterprise, and that series is set pre-launch of the Constitution.
Shhh...you're not supposed to notice that...
 
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