Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

[Noname Given]

Some things definitely deserve to be updated with the times. No doubt about that. But that doesn’t explain the majority of the changes in Discovery, and you’re lying to yourself if you think it does. Similarly, just because TNG had unnecessary changes doesn’t make Discovery’s less unnecessary. That is all. The two tired arguments from Discovery apologists:
1) Oh, I guess you want crappy plastic models, lol!
2) Oh, I guess you want them to be as consistent with the Klingons as they were between TOS and TUC, lol!
Come on. No one is saying either of those things. But there is an order of magnitude difference in S1 of Discovery. And that’s exactly why they tried so hard to undo it all in S2. We all get it. Even the producers get it. Only Discovery apologists don’t.

Well, IDK - as a TOS fan first and foremost (watched first run since 1969 - third season; caught the rest in syndication over the years) - at least the current STD arguments you site are better than the TNG apologists were in 1987, which consisted of:

"It ain't 1966 anymore, man."

Believe me, I get it - there's a lot of changes from YOUR era of Trek in this new era of Trek you hate and think are absolutely unneeded and make no sense...

To you I say:

Hey WELCOME to STAR TREK fandom...we've been through this with EVEY new incarnation from TAS to the first TOS feature films (My GOD! TWO Turbolifts on the 1701 in ST:TMP!!! WTF!!! - Not my Trek!!! <- And no not kidding, many were upset about stuff like that back in the day..)

It's the way it is...get used to it.

 

[fireproof78]

Only Discovery apologists don’t

Oh I get it just fine. I don't agree with it.

 

[DEWLine]

I always thought we were robbed not getting to see the D have multiple crews across decades.

That would have been fun, watching the turnover across the years.

 

[Datasbeard]

Oh I get it just fine. I don't agree with it.

With what? That the changes were bad? That’s your right, it’s all subjective.

 

[Datasbeard]

That would have been fun, watching the turnover across the years.

We could have a glimpse of that with the E or F in STP. It would be lovely, and rather poignant, to see the Enterprise not under Picard or Riker, boldly carrying on the legacy.

 

[fireproof78]

With what? That the changes were bad? That’s your right, it’s all subjective.

Yup. IDIC and all that.

 

[STR]

So...anyone else catch the very obvious Discoprise in Starfleet HQ. The moment I saw that, I was certain the internet would be totally cool with it.

 

[cooleddie74]

I'd prefer the TOS Enterprise but since we saw her from below the only glaring anomaly was the pylons. Everything else more or less looked like the TOS Enterprise from that angle.

I'm fine with it.

 

[fireproof78]

Thankfully, my pictures of the original Enterprise, as well as special copies of TOS are secured in a vault so that Kurtzman never can get his hands on them and destroy them.

 

[Timo]

You know...if the E-E does appear..this is John Eaves opportunity to finally drop that E-E refit he was talking about for the end of Nemesis...

Well, that ship was getting upgraded between every movie appearance anyway. Including an absurdly vast one before NEM, where every single hull plate in the secondary hull was ripped out, discarded, and replaced by a differently shaped one on a wholly reshaped structural skeleton. That is, the surface contours were changed by about one meter here, another there - a process far more demanding engineeringwise than the installation of fifty X-torp launchers or cisjump drive or whatnot.

If we got a ship shaped like the E-F and were told it's the E-E refitted, this would not be inconsistent with the ship's preceding refit history in any way...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Demosthenes]

Couple of images of the cute little civilian vehicles (one of these is from next week's preview in what I assume is a flashback as Picard seems to be in the Countdown uniform)

 

[DaveyNY]

Couple of images of the cute little civilian vehicles (one of these is from next week's preview in what I assume is a flashback as Picard seems to be in the Countdown uniform)

OH BOY!
Another Eaglemoss entry to look forward to.

 

[Longinus]

I absolutely love those flying mini-buses. They're so cute!

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

I absolutely love those flying mini-buses. They're so cute!

At least they aren't repurposed DSC shuttles, like the school buses and taxis.

 

[Tuskin38]

What would be funny, is if they are repurposed from DSC, but from the Season 1 Paris scene, so it was so dark you couldn’t see them

 

[Timo]

OTOH, they are all the same, which is sorta funny-looking in the "heavenly traffic jam" scene. Civilian, yeah. Private, probably not. So why would there be a jam rather than some socialistically orderly way of arranging them on the skylanes?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[DaveyNY]

What would be funny, is if they are repurposed from DSC, but from the Season 1 Paris scene, so it was so dark you couldn’t see them

I'm really liking most of their stuff.
I just got this one today...

They did a really good job on it.

 

[Timo]

...So, what's the dirt on the backstory?

Both in- and out-universe, that is. Although I doubt Eaglemoss would know much beyond what we heard in "Brother", there might be a nugget there. Or then not. But learning what the producers told the artists about what they want is precious, too.

Also, oddly for a "landing pod", this one doesn't appear to feature a means of landing! The chute launch utterly hides such means anyway. The door is supposedly on the back somehow, despite the engines being there, too. How does this thing look sitting on the ground (rather than landing in a thousand pieces like when a hero or a redshirt flies one)?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Danlav05]

Just looked at the image close up - YES! It does seem we actually see 'Admiral' Picard (still a strange new concept!) in action. Sir Patrick said he wanted to wear a uniform in flashback to give the scene bettercontext, this must be it. I was worried he was jsut talking about that dream with Data on the vineyard

Thanks for pointing it out

 

[Racefuel]

Well I think it was more so a case where SPS didn't want to be wearing a uniform for the whole series, which he made clear. My guess is we'll maybe see him in a uniform these two times, maybe once more this season.

It's pretty clear they're setting this up as a "end of life adventure" for Picard.